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Dec 31, 2018 8:32 PM CST
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Minnesota and Alaska (Zone 3a)
I scaled a batch of mixed Asiatic type lilies (possibly some OT's also) but I am to tired to go look right now. They have been incubating since mid October of this year following all the directions in stickey on scaling. Almost nothing showing any changes, scales are plump and healthy but no babies yet. In rereading through the scaling thread the term recutting/or cutting was mentioned a couple of times. Can someone clarify what this means for me? Confused Thank you
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Dec 31, 2018 9:55 PM CST
Name: Rick R.
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A first fresh "cut" was done in the beginning when the scale was first removed from the mother bulb. Recutting was mentioned once in the thread by me, and it was in reference to making a second fresh cut of the scales after they had produced some bulblets that I had removed. This would be cutting parallel to the original cut, and removing a thin slice of scale (the old cut surface), to producing a new fresh cut surface where (hopefully) more bulblets would initiate.
https://garden.org/thread/view...

There is no difference in the method of cutting or recutting, except that some people snap off the scale with our hands from the mother bulb instead of actually cutting it. Nevertheless, this isn't rocket science, and it really doesn't matter how you do it, as long as the break is as close to the basal plate as you can.

I hope this is what you are asking, because "cutting" was mentioned more than 30 times and we would need to know which time(s) you mean.
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Dec 31, 2018 10:07 PM CST
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freezengirl, perhaps you could pull a scale or two out and take a picture of it (them). If no bulblets have formed this should not harm the scale. Then upload the photo here so we can take a look at it.
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Jan 1, 2019 3:57 PM CST
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Minnesota and Alaska (Zone 3a)
It does clarify a bit. I also break off the scales at the basal plate or as close as humanly possible. I have seen mentioned some where recently (not on this forum) that some people will make a slice but not through the scale more like a surface (dent?) slice along the scale. In any event upon closer examination I do have some bulblets forming so I guess I will wait to see what happens.
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Jan 1, 2019 5:08 PM CST
Name: Rick R.
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Depending on how the bulb and scales feel, I might start the with a shallow cut not all the way through the scale, so I can finish the break with my fingers, and not accidentally damaging any other part with the knife.
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Jan 1, 2019 5:50 PM CST
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I have noticed some scales being more brittle and are more difficult to break at the basal plate where I would like to have the break occur. I think it is mostly with tetraploid material. I've never thought of using a knife for the process though. The tetraploids just seem to be a little trickier, in my opinion, wanting to break higher up.
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