Carol, after reading the newsletter again, I can't tell if Paul Barden is in the effort to make them available , we 'll see next year .
I ordered Gruss an Aachen, Sidonie and Duchesse de Rohan , which I don't see on her current stock list. They were at her website a week or two back.
I really want to order more vintage babies when they are mature enough to ship in the event my grafted Austins don't make it through my cold winter.
Mindy has some zone 4 own root that are real keepers. Just when I told myself that's enough roses now...