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May 7, 2019 11:55 AM CST
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Name: Verac
Vinton, VA (Zone 7a)
Region: United States of America
Hey all,

I have a duplicate in Plant ID but I've had no luck soo far so thought I'd ask here. (couldn't figure out how to move a post)

This is the second spring with my inherited Peonies and I was curious if anyone knew what variety they are?


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May 7, 2019 4:21 PM CST
Name: Nick
Edmonton, Canada (Zone 3b)
Immaculee comes to mind as a possibility.
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May 7, 2019 10:28 PM CST
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Name: Liz Best
Columbiana Alabama (Zone 8a)
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Unfortunately there are thousands of named varieties now and there's really no telling if it is even a registered one, could be a seedling passed down that might have only had a local garden name. If you think it's pretty sure to be a named variety you'll want to start doing some investigating. Ask if any neighbors who've been there for a while have a piece of it and if so, where they got it from. Could be several houses have the same variety from someone down the block that you can ask. If that's a dead end you need to take lots of pics. What does the foliage look like as it emerges? The flower looks bomb shaped—does it always bloom that way or are there flowers with less petals on the same plant? Looks like the guard petals open a soft pink then fades? Are there any side buds? What week does it open compared to other named varieties in the area? And is is scented and, if so, what does it smell like?
Even with all of those answers it's not safe to assume a name until you have the for sure named variety growing right next to your NOID for comparison. As someone who has more than my share of NOIDs that I've been trying to name for several years I can tell you it's not an easy task unless the bloom is just crazy distinctive.
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May 10, 2019 6:32 AM CST
Name: Craig
Fort Ann, NY (Zone 5a)
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It does resemble this variety offered by Hollingsworth last year. I have one that was handed down from my grandfather's garden so it has been around for a very long time.

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May 10, 2019 2:29 PM CST
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Name: Verac
Vinton, VA (Zone 7a)
Region: United States of America
LizinElizabeth said:Unfortunately there are thousands of named varieties now and there's really no telling if it is even a registered one, could be a seedling passed down that might have only had a local garden name. If you think it's pretty sure to be a named variety you'll want to start doing some investigating. Ask if any neighbors who've been there for a while have a piece of it and if so, where they got it from. Could be several houses have the same variety from someone down the block that you can ask. If that's a dead end you need to take lots of pics. What does the foliage look like as it emerges? The flower looks bomb shaped—does it always bloom that way or are there flowers with less petals on the same plant? Looks like the guard petals open a soft pink then fades? Are there any side buds? What week does it open compared to other named varieties in the area? And is is scented and, if so, what does it smell like?
Even with all of those answers it's not safe to assume a name until you have the for sure named variety growing right next to your NOID for comparison. As someone who has more than my share of NOIDs that I've been trying to name for several years I can tell you it's not an easy task unless the bloom is just crazy distinctive.


Thanks for the reply! I think I underestimated the ability to identify an unknown variety! As I do love taking picture of plants now, I'll be sure to slowly gather and document as much evidence as I can.
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Jun 8, 2019 7:13 PM CST
Name: Jasmin
Toronto, Ontario (Zone 5b)
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This TP was bought it as Hanakisoi at Canadian Tire and planted in the fall 2016. It bloomed in spring 2017 - obviously, not Hanakisoi.

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It did not bloom last year, but there are two flowers this year. It is really turning pink this year and showing deep red blotches (obliviously some Rockii ancestry.) It might look as a Guardian, but it is not, because the Guardian is planted just next to it - the Guardian is clearly lavender; this NOID is pink. I don't think that this is the final flower form though. The flowers still look a bit immature. Any idea? Does it look like something that you have? The buds looked rather pointy and very elegant, nothing like Guardians monster buds. Your comments are highly appreciated.

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Jun 9, 2019 8:38 AM CST
Name: Jasmin
Toronto, Ontario (Zone 5b)
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At the end, this might turn to be Hanakisoi. This bloom looks similar. We will have to wait and see (for a couple more years) Sighing! Smiling

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Jun 9, 2019 9:23 AM CST
Name: Alex
Toronto, Ontario
Region: Canadian
I thought Hanakisoi is pink, yours is more purplish color on pictures, Jasmin.
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Jun 9, 2019 10:30 AM CST
Name: Jasmin
Toronto, Ontario (Zone 5b)
Peonies Roses Clematis Native Plants and Wildflowers Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Bee Lover
Cat Lover Lover of wildlife (Raccoon badge) Enjoys or suffers cold winters Region: Canadian Permaculture Garden Ideas: Level 2
If not Hanakisoi, what else could it be?

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This Hanakisoi also looks purplish. It is difficult to get the right hue of pink in a photo. My blooms are warm pink in person. I like them very much, I would only like to know what I've got. Even if the blooms stay so small, it will be OK, but I think that the plant is totally immature. I am sure we will see more changes next year. Interesting.
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