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Jul 31, 2019 9:38 AM CST
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Name: Julie Seward
Westerville, OH (Zone 6b)
Hoses drive me crazy! I have a nice heavy duty hose in the back yard. The nozzle is now some how oxidized to the hose and even with my husband and I both using big wrenches we can not get these two pieces apart. I need to be able to set up a sprinkler. The hose out front leaks terribly right up against the house. Does anyone have ideas on what I should do differently, or buy so I can be able to link hoses, and nozzles and sprinklers when and where I need them? There has got to be a better way!
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Jul 31, 2019 12:16 PM CST
Name: Greg
Lake Forest Park, Washington (Zone 8b)
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Try soaking it in some CLR overnight or longer. If that doesn't work, only thing I can suggest is cut the end of the hose and use a hose repair fitting.
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Jul 31, 2019 4:48 PM CST
Name: Dr. Demento Jr.
Minnesota (Zone 3b)
Get some Break Free or other type of penetrating oil and put it on the coupling..
Leave it overnight and it should come loose using two wrenches.

I bought a heavy duty hose with life time warranty a few years back and had the same thing; I wrote them a note and they acknowledged they had put the wrong type of hose coupling metal on their hoses and sent me a new one free of charge.

I now use automobile anti-seize compound on the old hose and it works fine.
It is not a bad ides to put anti-seize on any hoseor water coupling .
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Jul 31, 2019 7:17 PM CST
Name: Bob
Vernon N.J. (Zone 6b)
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I keep Teflon tape on end of hose.
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Jul 31, 2019 7:52 PM CST
Name: Dr. Demento Jr.
Minnesota (Zone 3b)
Teflon is not enough as I found out, the hard way, all it takes is one cut/gap in that tape and it will still seize.
I tried it first before using anti-seize.

Quick connect / disconnect items do work well, if you get good ones but you will need parts for all items used.
With those, teflon tape is a good idea as it is not disturbed by connect-disconnect .
With my HD hose with the wrong metal, I found out when I was going to remove a Q-C piece and I had to use two pipe wrenches to do so but at that time I had no type of thread treatment installed.
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Aug 1, 2019 2:01 PM CST
Name: stone
near Macon Georgia (USA) (Zone 8a)
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julieseward1 said:Hoses drive me crazy! I have a nice heavy duty hose in the back yard. The nozzle is now some how oxidized to the hose and even with my husband and I both using big wrenches we can not get these two pieces apart. I need to be able to set up a sprinkler. The hose out front leaks terribly right up against the house. Does anyone have ideas on what I should do differently, or buy so I can be able to link hoses, and nozzles and sprinklers when and where I need them? There has got to be a better way!


Apparently those cheap aluminum hose ends bond with the brass faucets...
I can't get them apart either... Found this:

https://garden.org/ideas/view/...

If you have recently purchased one of these hoses, return it (if you can) and get one with BRASS fittings. If you haven't purchased one, DON'T. If you have one beyond the return period, just keep it removed after use.
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Aug 1, 2019 5:40 PM CST
Name: seil
St Clair Shores, MI (Zone 6a)
Garden Photography Region: Michigan Roses
Once you get them apart go get some quick connects for all the connections. SOOO much easier to deal with!

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07544LL8K/
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Aug 1, 2019 5:45 PM CST
Name: Top
Missouri (Zone 6a)
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seilMI said:Once you get them apart go get some quick connects for all the connections. SOOO much easier to deal with!

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07544LL8K/


THIS! I also have found that using 6' hose lengths off of any source of water makes it a lot easier to deal with as you are no longer bending over or getting on your knees.
The return of perennials in the spring can feel like once again seeing an old friend
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Aug 1, 2019 5:51 PM CST
Name: Linda
Bellevue, WA (Zone 8a)
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Aug 1, 2019 5:56 PM CST
Name: Linda
Bellevue, WA (Zone 8a)
I use quick release fittings on all of my hoses and attachments (including sprinklers). I got my original ones from Steubers in Snohomish, WA. These are brass and better quality than what is generally sold at the big box stores (professional grade). I have recently upgraded to even heavier ones that I got from Ebey (love their hose reels too). I also bought their shut off valves. I used to have the lever ones...sometimes if you dropped the hose after use, it would turn on the water. The ones I got from Eley have a rubber coated half-circle lever. I love them.

https://www.eleyhosereels.com/...

they have an offer of a 4pc set free with $149 purchase (I purchased hose reels and hoses)
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Aug 1, 2019 7:02 PM CST
Name: tfc
North Central TX (Zone 8a)
Million Pollinator Garden Challenge
seilMI said:Once you get them apart go get some quick connects for all the connections. SOOO much easier to deal with!

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07544LL8K/


Is this one that you recommend or did you just pull up 'quick connects'? I'm thinking I need a couple and am trying to follow this thread.

I haven't hooked it up yet but I did buy a 6' leader hose. Seemed like a good idea but not so sure I really need it. I'm learning.
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Aug 1, 2019 7:20 PM CST
Name: seil
St Clair Shores, MI (Zone 6a)
Garden Photography Region: Michigan Roses
I just pulled these up on Amazon but I do recommend you get the brass ones. The plastic ones are OK but don't last as long as the brass.
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Aug 1, 2019 9:18 PM CST
Name: tfc
North Central TX (Zone 8a)
Million Pollinator Garden Challenge
Thanks. I figured brass. But then there are people who crab about the length (or lack there of). I guess there are always people, including me, who find something to crab about.

As the saying goes, 'Your mileage may vary.'
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Aug 2, 2019 5:33 AM CST
canada 4b (Zone 8a)
I ran into the aluminum oxidation problem and solved it with plumbers grease. This grease is just silicone, used especially where metal meets rubber. It can be used in potable water systems. The main thing is to stop oxygen in this case, and it is easier to clean up than teflon paste. The tapes can shift and leave exposed area that can suffer the galvanizing effect.
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Aug 2, 2019 1:34 PM CST
Name: Top
Missouri (Zone 6a)
Dahlias Daylilies Hummingbirder Irises Region: Missouri Peonies
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Where I am making threaded connections, I am applying a generous amount of petroleum jelly. It helps reduce leaks and should prevent the threads from locking too tightly.
The return of perennials in the spring can feel like once again seeing an old friend
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Aug 2, 2019 2:24 PM CST
Name: tfc
North Central TX (Zone 8a)
Million Pollinator Garden Challenge
Anyone know anything about 'kink free hose savers'? They're coiled things that attach to the faucet and then to the hose. I'm having a hard time envisioning why they'd be needed. (Doesn't mean that they might not be needed in some cases but I just don't know.)

Here's a picture of one.
https://images.homedepot-stati...
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Aug 4, 2019 4:14 PM CST
Name: Dr. Demento Jr.
Minnesota (Zone 3b)
tx_flower_child said:Anyone know anything about 'kink free hose savers'? They're coiled things that attach to the faucet and then to the hose. I'm having a hard time envisioning why they'd be needed. (Doesn't mean that they might not be needed in some cases but I just don't know.)

Don't waste money on them , they are a waste of money as they wear out quicker, and are less useful than you think they would be.
I learned the hard way.
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Aug 4, 2019 4:34 PM CST
Name: Dr. Demento Jr.
Minnesota (Zone 3b)
tx_flower_child said:
Is this one that you recommend or did you just pull up 'quick connects'? I'm thinking I need a couple and am trying to follow this thread.
I haven't hooked it up yet but I did buy a 6' leader hose. Seemed like a good idea but not so sure I really need it. I'm learning.

Make sure you buy the same type of Q-C connections as you will find out that many look similar but will NOT interchange with other brands even if they look similar.
Do not use plastic.
It is best to use water pump/plumbers grease on the rubber gaskets as they will last longer then.
If connected and disconnected often and then left exposed to air, the rubber gaskets will wear out.

You can use all kinds of home remedies for metal chemical reaction seize. I have used enough in my days, but it is best to go to a auto store and get the product made just for that purpose; it is a no fail product.
My dad always said I was a hard learner; it made life a bit nasty but you DO learn and you more often , than not, KNOW what works and what is a back-yard fancy.

Buying hose with a life-time warranty can pay, IF , you keep the paper work that it came with.
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Aug 5, 2019 5:08 PM CST
Name: tfc
North Central TX (Zone 8a)
Million Pollinator Garden Challenge
RpR said:
Don't waste money on them , they are a waste of money as they wear out quicker, and are less useful than you think they would be.
I learned the hard way.


I figured they were probably useless which is why I asked. Seems like if your hose kinks at the spigot then you've really got a problem.
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Aug 6, 2019 11:47 PM CST
Name: Critter (Jill)
Frederick, MD (Zone 6b)
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Using a plastic manifold ("splitter") on your spigot also solves the aluminum to brass connection issue as well as allowing you to attach more than one hose to your spigot. Over the years, I've bought both brass and plastic manifolds, and I haven't gotten much more life out of the brass ones -- same with quick-connects, although I did go with a new set of brass ones this spring.

With quick-connects, I really like having the water-stop ones at hose ends. That way, you can have the water turned on and still be able to switch between, say, your sprayer and your sprinkler without getting sprayed in the face.

I also like to put a manual timer on my sprinkler (hose - timer - sprinkler), because I don't always get out there to move it when I think I will... most of them can be set for up to 1 hour.

And because I'd rather use my hand strength on the weeds, I like easy on/off levers rather than the bitty ones that come with most manifolds. Lee Valley carries both oversized levers and thumb valves, and also has a large, easy to turn faucet cover for anybody having trouble twisting the knob on their hose bib. All are under "hose accessories" on their site

oh, and I have two 2-way manifolds with push-button shut off valves that have been in use for a couple seasons, and they are very easy to operate also. Not sure where mine came from, but they look like this
In additi one: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00EOW6QN0/

As far as hoses themselves, I finally splurged and got a couple of very lightweight hoses from water right inc. Lovey dubby I'm using one on my deck, and it's so much easier than the coil hoses I've used previously. Decide what diameter and length you want, then watch for a sale or for a deal from their outlet store page: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00EOW6QN0/
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