Hi. I found this Vanda at Lowe's, & can't seem to locate it, to see what it is supposed to even look like, in bloom.
I apparently had put one in my shopping basket by mistake, while using my "smart" phone to try, & research it.
Didn't realize it until checking out, I must have picked up two, & only put one of them back. So, I went ahead & bought it anyway, since not that costly.

The name isn't the least bit familiar to me. Nor can I find it, unless 'Pinchaon', isnt quite correct. All I could think of was cv. 'Pakchong' ! Anyone have some idea about it, other than supposedly being a "blue color flowered" Vanda ?
Thanks.

There are two hybrids that I found on a "quick search". I can look deeper if need be.
1. Is Vanda Pakchong Smile. It is a hybrid of V. Korb Fah X Vanda coerulea.
2. Is Vanda Pakchong Blue. It is a hybrid of Vanda Doctor Anek X Vanda coerulea.

Both are purple flowers with a slight bluish tint. Their petals and sepals feature a lighter background overlain heavily with a dark purple "net like pattern of tessellations".

Both show strong influences from the coerulea parent. Flowers typically 6" compared to the normal 7-8" of modern hybrids with similar parents. Flower count is reduced a little as well, 5 or 6 as opposed to 8-11.
So why use Vanda coerulea? Coerulea produces clearer tessellations and cooler growing Vandas. Most standard Vandas available today do not like temperatures below 60-65 at night. Vanda coerulea and it's hybrids can take it cooler at night. Perhaps 55-60 would be ideal. Other modern Vandas would sulk and be unhappy from 50 to 60 degrees, Vanda coerulea and it's offspring can handle those lower temperatures.
In fact, some coerulea hybrids need a cooler night treatment in order to set bloom spikes.

Thank you Bill. Between Thunderstorms last night, a few snow flakes, at supposedly 42°F, with wind gust up to 50m.p.h. & potting up some seedlings today, & noticing others at the back door, all washed out...

I realized the full name on the label is 'Pinchaon Velvet'.

I can't very well change the "Thread Title", now !
Apart from not feeling all that well, or so great. (Not exactly "fine, & dandy".)
As long as it's going to be a blue violet color, worthy of growing, is fine with me.
I'd lost an older blue CV. this year.
I suppose somebody got the lawn mower caught up, on the hanging basket of another blue Vanda, (I now, no longer have.) This ought to suffice.
'Cept there likely isn't a link, to provide for it, to even list it in the Database.
Just one more "generic".
I do appreciate the time you took, for the Info.

No problem at all.

If I'd been paying attention Bill, I likely would have selected a larger sized seedling.
Being that I'd picked up two, quite by accident, I'd have rather gone for a somewhat larger Orchid !
At least the roots all appear to be in good health.

Good job! Concentrate on the positive.

I'm trying Bill ! At times, we can easily forget, just how good, we have it, being in this USA...
I try to be thankful, & grateful.
I feel fortunate, & at times forget all about, just how good we may actually have it.

I mean really, go to a local Box store, & select which Vanda, you'd want, for less than $15. ?
(& forget, all about it was even in the "real" shopping cart !)

Hmm, there is no RHS listing of a Pinchaon something Vanda.

There is a Vanda Pinchai and a Vanda Pinchai Beauty. Nothing else is close alphabetically!

Neither of those have awards as of yet. One is going to be red or orange and the straight Pinchai is a spotted purple, not a tessellated flower.
But this is exactly why you can never ever trust a label!!!

Thanks for trying. I figure Pinchaon, might be hybridizer, & possibly incorrect spelling.
While Velvet, is the ending of the cultivar name.
Might be a newer Vanda. While
Thai lists, of what Vanda they have available on offer, may show an error, & the labels may reflect that.

Hmm, there is no RHS listing of a Pinchaon something Vanda.

It could be Vanda Pinchai. It is very close. The first 6 letters are exact.

But there is something else to consider, it is an unregistered hybrid.

It is a very slim chance of it being a hybridizers name. So many of those are coded with numbers, numbers with a few letters or like SVO for Sunset Valley Orchids.
"Velvet could be part of the hybrid name or a clonal name. It might be highly unusual to designate different clones of a new hybrid, including those not registered as of yet.
It could have paperwork to the RHS pending.
It could be a name proposed by the vendor and in order for them to register it legally with RHS rules, they need the hybridizers permission to register their cross.

You best bet might be to find someone who speaks Thai, like at a restaurant. See if it has any meaning. If it is gibberish to them, then it could be nothing more then BS.

There are a number of Vandas marketed under tradenames, such as the Ansu (aka Su-Su) range:
https://www.ansu.eu/en/ansu-va...

Most of these are in the database here:
https://garden.org/plants/sear...

None of these are RHS registered, as far as I am aware.

I'm sure it will take awhile, before I see any blooms.

I did see in the first link, provided by Joshua, of a rather deep dark solid color, Vanda named 'Velvet Blackberry'.
Maybe that's getting closer.

Isn't RHS, the Royal Horticultural Society ?
If so, I know they give Awards of Garden Merit (AGM) for plants usually grown in the U.K. gardens, deserving recognition, or otherwise found to be worthy of growing.

Not quite the same as an All American Selection (AAS) winner, which grows well, across most all of the U.S.A. in a variety of conditions.

Maybe the current situation, is slowing down some other current paperwork involved. Besides Export/Import Permits, or issuing some Phytosanitary Certificates.
I figure it may have been in Florida, for a couple of years, before Better-Grow shipped to Lowe's.

It's all being done on line now, instant transmission.
Years ago when I joined the program in 1995, AOS awards were behind 9 months on average. In researching things, that was difficult to deal with. Then slowly over time that got better.

Then finally around 5, maybe six years ago, we switched to on line transmission of awards. They go directly to the Awards Registrar. Right to her in West Palm Beach. We still have paperwork but also record awards on a thumb drive.
That 9 month wait has now shrunk to under a month in most cases. In some instances we can see an award image and a description from a week or ten days prior. I am sure the RHS is doing something similar.
The only thing that takes time are what we call Provisional Awards. Those are held up until the award is cleared.
These are awards waiting for a hybrid to be registered or a species to be formally identified or in rare cases a species name is challenged.

But as a person getting an award, you pay the award fee on line. They send you a certificate announcing the award, suitable for framing and a digital file that you can print a picture of your plant. The certificate comes in just a few weeks.

I think that they call that progress!

Great to see there's been quite some progress made, than how it used to be accomplished.
Maybe the name will appear, in due time, in the future, Orchid shows, & sales. when entered to be judged while older & in bloom.

It should be a nice one, as I like those dark blue tessellations. Hopefully has the "look".
Wish I was in West Palm, about now, & at an Orchid show, & sale.
Never saw any even once, ever, in Boca Raton.
Here, the indoor Mall is gone. Too many unattended teens, were dropped off by parents, to gather into groups.
Maybe they'll use the newer Convention Center more often, once they ever get around to using it for what the Brits call "jabs".

The RHS (Royal Horticultural Society) is the International Cultivar Registration Authority (ICRA) for Orchids. If you want to register your hybrid (regardless of country), you have to go through them. It's also an online process these days and pretty quick.

Some hybridisers and nurseries are taking the alternative route of using trade names (protected with PBR or equivalent) so as not to reveal the parentage of their plants and to protect their work.

Thanks Joshua. That was "News" to me, about RHS.
I'd rather thought it was the A.O.S.
I just like the Vanda orchids, & since no Shows, or Sales. My info comes from here.. They're my "Winter" houseplants, along with some cacti, & various seed starting activity !
(Well, all the Gerbera Daisies, did spend their first winter, inside.)

The rest, are mainly outdoor.
You know, Iris, Peonies, & other perennials, annuals, biennials.
Hopefully, a 'Miss Wilmott's Ghost' AGM, from RHS, will soon be here.
I can't forget the antique Roses, & English Austin's, too ! (Grown, in Texas ?)
So I just mainly mess around with only the Vanda Orchids.
Maybe, I ought to buy, in a few more Colors ?