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Jul 23, 2021 5:25 PM CST
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Name: Michelle
Cheyenne, WY (Zone 5a)
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Our friend who gave us starts of these several years ago said someone told her they're Dutch Iris. They certainly grow better than any Dutch Iris I've ever tried to grow! (My next post should be "What do Dutch Iris want?" Hilarious! ) The tallest leaves of the plants in the pictures are 32" or so. About the time I got comfy with the idea that the plants might be Iris orientalis, a garden visitor told me: "Nope. They're Siberian Iris. The [Cheyenne] Botanic Garden has a whole bed of them." Gads! I still want to believe they're I. orientalis, but what do I know Shrug! Thoughts anyone? Thank you!
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Jul 23, 2021 7:04 PM CST
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Name: Kent Pfeiffer
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It's certainly not a Siberian Iris. It does appear to be a type of Spuria Iris, but unfortunately I don't know them well enough to say if it's I. orientalis, one of the other Spuria species, or maybe even a cultivar.
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Jul 23, 2021 8:41 PM CST
Name: Lucy
Tri Cities, WA (Zone 6b)
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Agree, not siberian.
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Jul 24, 2021 1:27 AM CST
Name: Curtis
Oregon (Zone 8b)
Yes, some type of Spuria, not a Siberian.
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Jul 24, 2021 12:25 PM CST
Name: Lilli
Lundby, Denmark, EU
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I agree Both the bloom and the foliage is wrong for it to be a Sib.


It is definitely more like this:
Of course I talk to myself; sometimes I need expert advice!
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Jul 24, 2021 9:48 PM CST
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Name: Michelle
Cheyenne, WY (Zone 5a)
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Many thanks everyone.

If I try germinating seeds again, I'll look for a method recommended for Spuria types. The Dutch Iris method I tried on last year's seeds sure didn't work. Imagine that! Hah!

And to have a more complete set of photos, I hunted up a couple pics of the developing seed pods and of the rhizomes.
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Jul 25, 2021 5:13 PM CST
Name: Robin
Melbourne, Australia (Zone 10b)
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thanks for the photos Michelle Thumbs up . I've never seen a seed pod on a spuria before.
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Sep 24, 2021 8:53 AM CST
Name: Maggie
Sierra Foothills, Calaveras Co (Zone 8b)
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Thanks Michelle! They certainly do look alike. But not your tuber pic. Checked out the thread and a bit of Google. I'd not realized Dutch iris (hollandia ) was hybridized from two species - neither spuria).
Remember, it is dangerous to the environment and ILLEGAL in MANY states (CA is one) to mail plants/bulbs/cuttings in. Let’s all practice Do No Harm while we walk this earth and find other ways to connect to one another through gardening.
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Sep 24, 2021 11:17 AM CST
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Name: Michelle
Cheyenne, WY (Zone 5a)
Salvias
You're welcome Maggie. Here's the post we lost in our conversation. https://garden.org/thread/view...

I wasn't familiar with the hybridization history of Dutch iris either. Fascinating stuff Thumbs up
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