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Jul 10, 2022 12:26 PM CST
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Name: Sheridragonfly/Sheri
Alabama (Zone 8b)
Salvias Celebrating Gardening: 2015
what happens if you do not spray with fungicides
once a month from early spring to fall?

I have had rust on almost all of my day lilys through the years.


I took the white paper towel and rubbed underneath the leaves and it was a rusty
color

that came off on the paper towel..

Was that how you checked yours for rust?

I looked at the pictures someone posted on the day lily site

and I have never had but two or three that did not have rust.

All the sellers I bought from told me in the south or southeast you rarely see daylily plants rust free.

That is why I spray once a month from March lst to October with a fungicide spray..in early morning before the sun is on them or heat gets really high..and humidity here..
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Jul 10, 2022 1:33 PM CST
Name: Greg Bogard
Winston-Salem, NC (Zone 7a)
The first year the rust came to my garden---it exploded! There was rust everywhere! The second year it was better. Each year thereafter it has improved so that very little rust is present in the garden any more. I do not know if the plants have developed some level of immunity to it, or that my ability to grow my plants has improved. I do think that if you give your daylilies full sun, plenty of food at the right intervals, and give them plenty of water---the rust problem goes way down. Also, we have Winter here. That keeps the rust down as well.
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Jul 10, 2022 2:16 PM CST
Name: Nan
southeast Georgia (Zone 8b)
Keeps Horses Daylilies Region: Georgia Cat Lover Enjoys or suffers hot summers Composter
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I write a long response to this and lost it when my wifi cut out. Grumbling
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Jul 11, 2022 7:21 AM CST
Name: Nan
southeast Georgia (Zone 8b)
Keeps Horses Daylilies Region: Georgia Cat Lover Enjoys or suffers hot summers Composter
Organic Gardener Irises Amaryllis Butterflies Birds Vegetable Grower
OK, I wrote out my reply before pasting it in so I wouldn't lose it again.

Rust is a constant problem here. I do not spray any fungicides, though. That is a decision I made, so I have to put up with the consequences. Here is how I try to minimize rust problems to keep it manageable.

1. I eliminate "rust bucket" cultivars—those that have had several bad outbreaks in the same season or several seasons in a row. With so many available, it's not worth keeping them.
2. For those cultivars that have gotten a little rust now and then, I trim the rusty leaves immediately and spray the plant with Green Magic, a product I read about. It's actually an organic cleaning product. I cannot cite any study that indicates it works, but my impression is that it helps retard the development of new spores.
3. I put new cultivars that have developed some significant rust "on probation"—I dig them up, pot them, cut them back, spray them with Green Magic, and isolate them. If they get rust again, out they go.
4. I do a lot of homework on cultivars to add to my garden. The rust resistance scores in the database are a starting point. In my experience, a score of 1.0 is a good indicator but is not by any means proof that a daylily won't develop rust here. (Similarly, sometimes a daylily that is supposedly very susceptible will do fine here, presumably because it is immune to the rust strains I have.) If there is nothing about rust in the database, I will try to research the parentage. If I can't find out anything that way, sometimes I can get info about rust resistance from others in my zone who have grown the plant successfully.

Miscellaneous observations:
• In several cases, daylilies that got some rust one season, but which I spared, have been fine the next. I don't know whether this is because the plant developed some resistance or because conditions changed.
• Some of my daylilies show a little rust but then seem to shrug it off.
• Other cultivars show rust only in the fall when they are beginning to die back. I can live with this because I am removing spent foliage anyway.
• I keep careful records of cultivars that have been rust-free here. These are the only ones I will share with local friends.
• I have made several purchases from Ron Reimer and Brian Reeder, who have both made rust resistance a priority in their programs. I have three Reimer daylilies and nine of Reeder's, all labeled highly resistant. All have been as advertised and have shown no rust.
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Jul 11, 2022 8:02 AM CST
Name: Sue
Ontario, Canada (Zone 4b)
Annuals Native Plants and Wildflowers Keeps Horses Dog Lover Daylilies Region: Canadian
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DeweyRooter said:
2. For those cultivars that have gotten a little rust now and then, I trim the rusty leaves immediately and spray the plant with Green Magic, a product I read about. It's actually an organic cleaning product. I cannot cite any study that indicates it works, but my impression is that it helps retard the development of new spores..


There was a study that found Ultra Dawn liquid hand dishwashing liquid helped with daylily rust, it was published in the Daylily Journal. Are you sure "Green Magic" is organic? There are several different cleaning products called 'Green Magic" and I've never seen the MDS for the cleaner/degreaser that is touted for daylily rust.

Edited to add link to the study that included Ultra Dawn:
https://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/...
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Jul 11, 2022 8:23 AM CST
Name: Nan
southeast Georgia (Zone 8b)
Keeps Horses Daylilies Region: Georgia Cat Lover Enjoys or suffers hot summers Composter
Organic Gardener Irises Amaryllis Butterflies Birds Vegetable Grower
No, I am not at all sure. I seem to remember this came up on another, older thread, and I don't remember whether or not anyone located the ingredients.

I think I heard about using dishwashing liquid to curb rust--I certainly am willing to give it a try.
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