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Dec 7, 2022 11:33 PM CST
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florence, SC US (Zone 7a)
I just read up about them and their abundance of nectar. Does this plant get upset if moved around but still in shady light? I an in South Carolina, so when the cooler temps start back I put outside but able to bring in for temps or conditions it will be ok right?
I just bought one off line, my first hoya plant.
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Dec 8, 2022 8:02 AM CST
Name: Gina
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Its been my experience with growing Hoya for many hears in a greenhouse that they have to have very BRIGHT light to flower. Not shade
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Dec 8, 2022 8:46 AM CST
Name: Lin Vosbury
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Do you know which Hoya you have? I'm in Florida where all of my Hoya's stay outside in extremely bright light and high humidity year round. Since you are in S.C., you can keep your plant outside in a bright, shady location during the summer months and bring it indoors for the winter. I'd advise placing it in front of the brightest window possible but away from any cold drafts; a south facing window would be ideal. Depending on the type of potting medium in use, you will have to be careful with watering, especially during the winter when the plant isn't in active growth mode. Hoya's really prefer a light, airy potting medium that allows for good aeration at root level. Try to keep the soil just barely damp throughout, not overly wet. Humidity can be increased by sitting the pot atop a tray of moist pebbles.
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Dec 8, 2022 9:00 AM CST
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Can't handle freezing or near-freezing temps. It's not unusual for Hoyas to bloom inside. People show pics of that happening regularly. But, as said, it will need to be by a sunny window. So many plants love a sunny window for winter even if they do better in mostly shade while outside. There are a lot of different Hoyas. The few I've had have been late summer/fall bloomers.
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Dec 8, 2022 1:16 PM CST
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Its a crimson queen. I plan to move it around in summer months to have outside light cause I read when it flowers there is 'alot' of nectar. I have a bright sun facing window. The backyard is bright also but no shade. I got it cause it was unique. Without a high need for water, with slow growth. And its 4 inches. I have some mix I made up for small succulent like soil but am able to add orchid bark.
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Dec 8, 2022 2:24 PM CST
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It sounds very cute!

Keep in mind that any plant that has been inside and is taken outside can burn very easily. It can take 4-6 weeks to ease a plant into a few hours of direct outdoor sun. For something like a Hoya that can keep individual leaves for years, it's worth making sure it doesn't burn. Some plants will grow all new leaves in a week after a burn but Hoya isn't one of them, that I've seen.
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Dec 8, 2022 4:10 PM CST
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Did you look it up? The leaves are waxy, and green and white. The flowers are so interesting sounding. Also there is supposed to be 3 colors on it, don't remember what parts.
It is supposed to arrive tomorrow, and I am feeling inpatient. I read to use a terra cotta so I will go that route. Do I get the same size or like maybe one size up? Hurray!
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Dec 8, 2022 6:52 PM CST
Name: Lin Vosbury
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Here's our database entry for Krimson Queen Hoya (Hoya carnosa 'Tricolor') which is usually a summer bloomer. I've found that most Hoya's prefer to have snug roots and I wouldn't advise moving it to a larger pot. I no longer grow the Krimson Queen but I have a couple of Hoya's that have been in the same pot for a dozen years.

Here are a couple of photos from the database of H. carnosa 'Tricolor':

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Dec 9, 2022 7:03 AM CST
Name: Gina
Florida (Zone 9a)
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Some species of Hoya prefer to be sun stressed and can tolerate full sun. Krimson Queen however is not one of those. I have one in my greenhouse. It's in what I describe as full greenhouse sun, which translates to approximately 70% sun
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Dec 9, 2022 7:25 AM CST
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Gina1960 70 does that translate to a bright sunny room? I read they dont flower often is that correct?
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Dec 9, 2022 8:21 AM CST
Name: Gina
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No 70% does qualify as a bright sunny room. Most estimates that you will find online say that once sunlight has to pass through a barrier, no matter how clear or how clean, the available photonic transmission of the sun's rays is decreased to between 50-70%. It depends on the position of the barrier (ie a window or a greenhouse wall), the thickness of the barrier (single pane vs double pane glass, tempered vs non-tempered glass, thickness of the greenhouse glazing material) as well as how clean it is.
My Hoya flower all the time. They have a season. They don't flower randomly. But once one starts they all seem to start
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Dec 9, 2022 8:27 AM CST
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Beautiful, Gina! Are they hanging/dangling, or growing up something? Some of both?
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Dec 9, 2022 8:53 AM CST
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Interesting to wonder if they stimulate each other when bloom starts.
Plant it and they will come.
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Dec 9, 2022 10:13 AM CST
Name: Gina
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Tiffany they all started in baskets. But hoya do not stay contained unless you physically contain them to something like a trellis by tying them on or twining them around and around. Mine are in the greenhouse and I never made any attempt to contain them. They will grow on and up anything. They go up then they drape down. They are true vining plants of course. They will cling to anything with little roots that they will put out on the stems.
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Dec 9, 2022 1:11 PM CST
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Thank you for the descriptions! Fascinating.
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Dec 9, 2022 1:50 PM CST
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I grow my Hoya 'Krimson Queen' usually outdoors, but in part shade during the warmer months, since it will not handle our arid weather and harsh direct sun here. Have learned now it loved the little water spike I gave it during that period too.

It can handle our mild winter, but I know it gets tougher if we experience occasional 20F range at times in January. So this time it is being overwintered indoors, but I have positioned it by our west facing window upstairs. I just give it occasional watering as needed, since temps are much cooler now and light levels are shorter, intensity is weaker.

I also took a cutting from that mother plant and been just growing it indoors by our northwest facing sliding door area..and so far it is doing well too. Initially the cutting's leaves were just facing down and I was not sure if it will actually grow..but it managed to produce new leaves facing right side up..so all is well. I am using a container with a wick for this one so there is a small water reservoir below that helps in its moisture needs.

I do not have a greenhouse and this particular Hoya goes well with my other succulents here. Just have to remember to adjust watering as seasons change and make sure media is always well draining.

The mother plant during warmer weather outdoors:
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Some krimson variegations on some leaves
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The mother plant is now overwintered indoors:

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Distance from west facing window
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The cutting growing indoors year round now:

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Photo below taken today ,09Dec2022
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This is the distance of that plant pole from the sliding door..so it suits very well my other low light plants like Phal orchids, Sansevieria and other Hoyas.
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Our growing areas are different..my area is so dry..only towards late fall to winter will we have rain but it is a dicey tandem once temperature goes colder than 50F outdoors.

The mother plant will be returned to its old shady location outdoors once Spring temps overnight is at least 50F and higher, so it can acclimate gradually before our super dry summer ensues.
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Dec 9, 2022 2:03 PM CST
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I love that pole. The website online said low to medium light. Do you feel that is incorrect? The light needs is that for it to produce more flowers?
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Dec 9, 2022 2:12 PM CST
Name: Tiffany purpleinopp
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This is a struggle that is common when tropical wannabes are trying to keep tropical plants inside in temperate locations, translating the outside exposure to inside exposure. During the short days and weak rays of winter, almost any plant you could bring inside will do best if placed as close as possible to a sunny window, so the sun can shine on it for at least an hour or 2. Those in the tropical or almost tropical locations can't really relate because their plants are almost always outside, or for the really lucky plants, in a beloved greenhouse. None of that compares to the kitchen sink window in Z7. The intensity of the sun starts to drop exponentially once one starts to go to the higher latitudes. Many more cloudy hours too.

It's the outside exposure that can overwhelm plants. Being outside in "high shade" under a limbed-up tree on a long summer day can be the same accumulation of light as compared to the sunny winter window. That's where folks like us make sunburn mistakes. Just moving the plant to the other side of the glass can be too much at first.
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Dec 9, 2022 10:11 PM CST
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scgibbs said: I love that pole. The website online said low to medium light. Do you feel that is incorrect? The light needs is that for it to produce more flowers?


The light requirement is correct. Too much sun will burn the leaves easily, add to that if ambient conditions are too dry, all the more you have to position them in shade.

With my Hoya carnosa 'Krimson Queen', it usually manages to bloom around summer time. Somehow it needs temps in the 70F to 80F range to bloom here.
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