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Apr 19, 2023 2:08 PM CST
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Dallas, TX
Has anyone succeeded? A family member has a mature Texas mountain laurel (TML). Low hanging branches started to form 2 years ago are now the pencil thickness. He plans to remove them all. If TML can be air layed, even at a low percentage success rate, I would like to give it a try. Please advise. Thank you.
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Apr 19, 2023 2:52 PM CST
Name: Al F.
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.... no reason that I can think of why it can't be layered. Need help?

AL
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Apr 19, 2023 3:29 PM CST
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Dallas, TX
Thank you for the encouragement. I will give it a try. Being such a slower grower (and slow rooter) could be the reason why I have not hit a single air layering post on internet.
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May 2, 2023 9:51 PM CST
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Dallas, TX
I will check in 2-3 months if roots are formed.
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May 3, 2023 2:00 PM CST
Name: Al F.
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Typically, you'd layer a branch that received more light - faster and greater probability of success. I was thinking you were going to layer one of the larger woody branches, like the larger one above moving to the right.

Make sure you check moisture levels inside the container from time to time. Good luck!

Al
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May 4, 2023 12:41 PM CST
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Dallas, TX
Thank you for the advice. I will do another one, woody, thicker, and more light.
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May 7, 2023 2:44 PM CST
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Dallas, TX
Second one.
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May 7, 2023 8:12 PM CST
Name: Al F.
5b-6a mid-MI
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Thumbs up Strong work! Is this the approximate method you used?
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Al
* Employ your time in improving yourself by other men's writings, so that you shall gain easily what others have labored hard for. ~ Socrates
* Change might not always bring growth, but there is no growth without change.
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May 9, 2023 3:18 PM CST
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Dallas, TX
I think I did. Are the zip ties there on purpose?
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May 9, 2023 3:29 PM CST
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Dallas, TX
Double post. Please delete
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May 9, 2023 8:05 PM CST
Name: Al F.
5b-6a mid-MI
Knowledge counters trepidation.
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Sorry - I actually went out in the middle of winter to make a layer and get an image to show someone on another forum site how to prepare a layer. I was talking about the ringed bark method and the tourniquet method. It was cold enough that I thought I'd kill 2 birds with one stone ...... so the zip ties are a form of a tourniquet. Like the wire on the second image of this Japanese maple layered off of it's ugly seedling roots

See the old root mass below the upper roots?
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Here, the lower root mass has been removed by sawing through the former trunk just below the layer. The wire tourniquet is still in place and has served its purpose.
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You can even get roots to grow exactly where you want them to be, as they are in the image above. This is how I did that:
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Roots of trees grown from seeds are usually always ugly and one-sided. Roots of cuttings (and layers) are usually much, much better.

Al
* Employ your time in improving yourself by other men's writings, so that you shall gain easily what others have labored hard for. ~ Socrates
* Change might not always bring growth, but there is no growth without change.
* Mother Nature always sides with the hidden flaw.
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Jul 30, 2023 4:15 PM CST
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Dallas, TX
Update:

It's been 3 months since air layeing. The upper branch dried and died from excessive heat here in Dallas TX. The lower branch is still alive (shaded from the scorching sun) and new roots were noticed. I plan to keep the mud ball a while longer for more roots to develop. Thank you.
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Jul 30, 2023 10:34 PM CST
Name: Al F.
5b-6a mid-MI
Knowledge counters trepidation.
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Good deal, @Rupertlee Keep us posted with regard to how it goes when you separate the layer from the tree.

Al
* Employ your time in improving yourself by other men's writings, so that you shall gain easily what others have labored hard for. ~ Socrates
* Change might not always bring growth, but there is no growth without change.
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Sep 9, 2023 3:32 PM CST
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Dallas, TX
After 4 months the branch was separated. Here is the photo. Do I need to remove more leaves? The main branch is about 4' long. Please advise. Thank you.

It's sitting in the full shade. I am misting the leaves several times a day. Temp is still in upper 90's, eventually to 80's in 2-3 days.
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Sep 10, 2023 6:52 PM CST
Name: Al F.
5b-6a mid-MI
Knowledge counters trepidation.
Japanese Maples Deer Tropicals Seed Starter Overwinters Tender Plants Indoors Region: Michigan
Houseplants Foliage Fan Dog Lover Container Gardener Birds Wild Plant Hunter
Being that you still have a lot of hot weather coming your way, and not much of a root system, I would prune it back to prevent total collapse of the propagule. One thing I would do is remove one one of the 3 lowest branches, left or right - not the middle. I know it's a shrubby plant, but it will look better if you eliminate one of the 3 branches wherever you discover a trifurcation.
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For now, a position in open or dappled shade where it's protected from wind is the best location.

Al
* Employ your time in improving yourself by other men's writings, so that you shall gain easily what others have labored hard for. ~ Socrates
* Change might not always bring growth, but there is no growth without change.
* Mother Nature always sides with the hidden flaw.
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Sep 11, 2023 9:52 AM CST
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Dallas, TX
Thank you for the advice. I will do so immediately. I also learned new words, bifurcate and trifurcate.
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