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May 17, 2023 7:13 AM CST
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May 17, 2023 11:03 AM CST
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Rough Leaf Dogwood?
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May 17, 2023 8:02 PM CST
Name: John
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I'd say yes to a shrubby species of Dogwood (Cornus sp.).

Further observation of fruit characteristics - along with caterpillar species predation - may narrow the field of potential answers.
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May 18, 2023 7:27 PM CST
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ViburnumValley said: I'd say yes to a shrubby species of Dogwood (Cornus sp.).

Further observation of fruit characteristics - along with caterpillar species predation - may narrow the field of potential answers.

What kind of caterpillars of what kind of butterflies I'll be on the lookout?
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May 18, 2023 7:38 PM CST
Name: Porkpal
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May 19, 2023 11:03 AM CST
Name: John
Scott County, KY (Zone 5b)
You can't have too many viburnums..
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Consult your local entomologist - or go searching online, or buy some bug books.

Here's an example of what I see on various shrubby dogwoods around the Valley. They seem to be specific to particular species, not generalists. I think these images are Cornus racemosa.

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I can't find further digital images (these are all one Dogwood species), but they are from midsummer when the crumbcrunchers typically show up. These are not big showy caterpillars, and I don't know whether they turn into moths or butterflies after they pupate. I suspect my other pictures date back to 35 mm days and are either slides or prints (still).

I have grown Cornus drummondii, Cornus amomum, and Cornus racemosa in the shrubby dogwood clan.
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May 19, 2023 4:37 PM CST
Name: Lee-Roy
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Looks like Cornus sanguinea
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