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Jul 23, 2023 9:57 AM CST
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Name: Mike Stewart
Lower Hudson Valley, New York (Zone 7a)
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Photo Contest Winner 2020 Garden Photography Roses Bulbs Peonies
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I have a lot of favorite things in the garden, but the 50 year old, 75 foot long yew hedge in our back garden isn't one of them. Previous owners of the house had let the hedge grow very tall. It had become about 7 feet high and 7 feet deep, and was simply too big for me to effectively and safely prune anymore.

Over dinner the other night, John and I began to ask ourselves, what was the purpose of the hedge, anyway? The roots surely helped with erosion control where the edge of the upper garden met the steeply sloped bank of the "mid level" garden. But now it had just become a giant green wall that blocked lines of sight and divided the back yard in two.

So we talked it over, and decided I'd take it down. I spent all day Friday afternoon using my chainsaw to cut down 45 yew bushes, and Saturday we rented a 20-foot panel truck to haul all the branches to the town landfill.

Removal of the hedge has not only opened up lines of sight between the upper and lower gardens, but the back yard feels more expansive now without a green wall bifurcating it down the middle. Moreover, the roses in the upper garden will get about twice the amount of sun as they did before. And best of all, I have a huge amount of square footage that has opened up, to install some (or a lot) of my favorite things.

The photos tell the story...

"Before" photo looking down the length of the mid-level garden with the yew hedge on the right
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"After" photo looking down the length of the mid-level garden
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"Before" photo of the upper garden taken a few years ago, on the other side of the yew hedge, shown on the left
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"After" photo of the upper garden taken today...
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New planting area!
(and a mess of unseen roots to contend with)
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One of 45 yew stumps that will eventually be replaced with some new favorites.
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Jul 23, 2023 10:22 AM CST
Name: Porkpal
Richmond, TX (Zone 9a)
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I normally can't bring myself to remove anything green and thriving, but I totally agree with your decision. Now I'm looking forward to seeing the new planting project unfold!
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Jul 23, 2023 11:07 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Mike Stewart
Lower Hudson Valley, New York (Zone 7a)
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Photo Contest Winner 2020 Garden Photography Roses Bulbs Peonies
Lover of wildlife (Black bear badge) Dog Lover Cat Lover Birds Enjoys or suffers cold winters Region: New York
Thank you. I did a lot of research on "hard pruning" overgrown yew hedges, and it's not easy to cut them way back and get new green growth to grow back on top or on the sides. You often end up with what looks like a big bundle of upright sticks, at least for a season or two. And then, of course, they just keep growing back to where they used to be, and it's not easy to safely prune them while trying to balance oneself on that steep slope.
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Jul 23, 2023 8:52 PM CST
Santa Barbara, CA (Zone 9b)
Great decision, and love the before and after pics! Are you going to hire someone to dig out and grind the roots? That's not a job I'd want!
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Jul 24, 2023 5:32 AM CST
Name: Vicki
North Carolina
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It's all so beautiful. What do you plan to plant where you have removed your green wall?
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Jul 24, 2023 7:42 AM CST
Name: Patricia
Northeast Ohio (Zone 6a)
Like Vicki, I'm curious, too, as to what you are going to plant where the 'greens' were. Fantastic removal job, Mike, and I love the new openness of the back yard. More room for more roses, maybe? Hurray!
Love covers a multitude of sins......thank God!
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Jul 24, 2023 9:29 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Mike Stewart
Lower Hudson Valley, New York (Zone 7a)
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Photo Contest Winner 2020 Garden Photography Roses Bulbs Peonies
Lover of wildlife (Black bear badge) Dog Lover Cat Lover Birds Enjoys or suffers cold winters Region: New York
Thanks everyone! So here's an update... I have many potted perennials and decided that they would be the first plants to go into the new open area. I also have a number of perennials that are starting to close in on one another or could be divided or are somewhat hidden by other plants, and decided they would also be transplanted to the open area. I've also been growing some perennials by seed in small growing pots, that are ready to be planted out. So on Sunday I planted a few of my favorite things into the newly cleared area, which include:

1 short fountain grass
3 Amsonia (Bluestar)
2 Heliopsis (False Sunflower)
1 Mallow
3 Perovskia (Russian Sage, 2 different varieties)
6 Echinacea (Coneflower)
1 Campanula (Bell Flower)
4 Asclepias (Milkweed)
2 Salvia
2 Veronica (Speedwell)
2 Delphinium
2 Sedum (Autumn Joy)
1 Stokesia (Stokes Aster)
5 Ornamental onions (Allium)
3 Liatris Spicata (Blazing Star)
3 Stachys (Big Betony)

Then I came back indoors, had a nice glass of iced sangria, and called it a day.
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Jul 24, 2023 9:44 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Mike Stewart
Lower Hudson Valley, New York (Zone 7a)
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Photo Contest Winner 2020 Garden Photography Roses Bulbs Peonies
Lover of wildlife (Black bear badge) Dog Lover Cat Lover Birds Enjoys or suffers cold winters Region: New York
Susan_in_SB said: Great decision, and love the before and after pics! Are you going to hire someone to dig out and grind the roots? That's not a job I'd want!


Nah, I'll do that myself.

"Me big! Me strong! Me he-man!"

But me will need some Advil.
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Jul 24, 2023 9:51 AM CST
Name: Vicki
North Carolina
I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar I sent a postcard to Randy! Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Forum moderator Region: United States of America
Purslane Garden Art Region: North Carolina Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Garden Ideas: Master Level Million Pollinator Garden Challenge
It will be so beautiful - already beautiful but even more so.

lol on the Advil. Whistling
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Jul 24, 2023 10:38 AM CST
Name: Patricia
Northeast Ohio (Zone 6a)
Mike said: So here's an update... I have many potted perennials and decided that they would be the first plants to go into the new open area. I also have a number of perennials that are starting to close in on one another or could be divided or are somewhat hidden by other plants, and decided they would also be transplanted to the open area. I've also been growing some perennials by seed in small growing pots, that are ready to be planted out. So on Sunday I planted a few of my favorite things into the newly cleared area, which include:

1 short fountain grass
3 Amsonia (Bluestar)
2 Heliopsis (False Sunflower)
1 Mallow
3 Perovskia (Russian Sage, 2 different varieties)
6 Echinacea (Coneflower)
1 Campanula (Bell Flower)
4 Asclepias (Milkweed)
2 Salvia
2 Veronica (Speedwell)
2 Delphinium
2 Sedum (Autumn Joy)
1 Stokesia (Stokes Aster)
5 Ornamental onions (Allium)
3 Liatris Spicata (Blazing Star)
3 Stachys (Big Betony)

Then I came back indoors, had a nice glass of iced sangria, and called it a day.


The colors of those choices will be so much more beautiful than the hedges. Great choices!!!
I greatly applaud you for doing the work yourself. I tip my hat to you.
Love covers a multitude of sins......thank God!
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Jul 24, 2023 10:45 AM CST
Name: Porkpal
Richmond, TX (Zone 9a)
Cat Lover Charter ATP Member Keeper of Poultry I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Dog Lover Keeps Horses
Roses Plant Identifier Farmer Raises cows Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Garden Ideas: Level 2
It sounds beautiful already! Would it be too much to expect some progress pictures?
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Jul 24, 2023 11:03 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Mike Stewart
Lower Hudson Valley, New York (Zone 7a)
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Photo Contest Winner 2020 Garden Photography Roses Bulbs Peonies
Lover of wildlife (Black bear badge) Dog Lover Cat Lover Birds Enjoys or suffers cold winters Region: New York
Once I finish the additional installations and get the area mulched, I'll put up some photos. I'm thinking that I may replace the yew hedge with a 2.5 foot high hedge of shorter Encore azaleas. They bloom in spring, summer and fall (hence the name); can withstand full sun; and are evergreen. Of course I thought about adding more roses, but they're not a lot of fun to look at from outside the kitchen window in the middle of January, whereas a short evergreen hedge would be more pleasing, and give some structural definition to the breakpoint where the sloped bank of the middle garden meets the flat upper garden. However, I won't install these until the spring.

Encore Azalea ('Autumn Sunburst')
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Or perhaps I could alternate the azaleas with some short floribunda or shrub roses.
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Jul 24, 2023 11:39 AM CST
Name: Patricia
Northeast Ohio (Zone 6a)
Mike said: Once I finish the additional installations and get the area mulched, I'll put up some photos. I'm thinking that I may replace the yew hedge with a 2.5 foot high hedge of shorter Encore azaleas. They bloom in spring, summer and fall (hence the name); can withstand full sun; and are evergreen. Of course I thought about adding more roses, but they're not a lot of fun to look at from outside the kitchen window in the middle of January, whereas a short evergreen hedge would be more pleasing, and give some structural definition to the breakpoint where the sloped bank of the middle garden meets the flat upper garden. However, I won't install these until the spring.

Encore Azalea ('Autumn Sunburst')
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Or perhaps I could alternate the azaleas with some short floribunda or shrub roses.


I love the shade of pink!!
Love covers a multitude of sins......thank God!
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Jul 24, 2023 12:01 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Mike Stewart
Lower Hudson Valley, New York (Zone 7a)
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Photo Contest Winner 2020 Garden Photography Roses Bulbs Peonies
Lover of wildlife (Black bear badge) Dog Lover Cat Lover Birds Enjoys or suffers cold winters Region: New York
LittleAnnie said: I love the shade of pink!!


I do too; as pretty as many azaleas are, I often find their colors to be almost neon-like, and I prefer something a little softer. This spring I replaced the 25 Knockout Roses in the front yard (that were planted by the home's previous owners about 20 years ago) with azaleas of this color (although they weren't Encore azaleas). The Knockouts rarely had a chance to bloom given how many deer pass through our unfenced front yard on a daily (and nightly) basis. I have no idea why the previous owners thought it was a good idea to put out a buffet for them, but I grew tired of pruning 25 roses every spring that got munched all summer long.
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Jul 24, 2023 3:47 PM CST
Name: Patricia
Northeast Ohio (Zone 6a)
Mike said: I do too; as pretty as many azaleas are, I often find their colors to be almost neon-like, and I prefer something a little softer. This spring I replaced the 25 Knockout Roses in the front yard (that were planted by the home's previous owners about 20 years ago) with azaleas of this color (although they weren't Encore azaleas). The Knockouts rarely had a chance to bloom given how many deer pass through our unfenced front yard on a daily (and nightly) basis. I have no idea why the previous owners thought it was a good idea to put out a buffet for them, but I grew tired of pruning 25 roses every spring that got munched all summer long.


Just showed the pic of the Azaleas and she's going to put some in the front of the house. I do the roses, she does the gardening partly on the western front and side of the house. She often does annuals, but, liked the azaleas so much she's copying your idea. Happily, we have no deer yet, but, since we are taking so much wild life living space, I've seen wild turkeys cross my small street several times and there are now coyotes in the area. About 40 miles north of us a puma was spotted because the deer population is coming into the towns and cities.

Mike, remember the poor Firefighter that had disease spots on the stems? You advised me to cut below the spots and I cut it very low, thinking it wouldn't survive. It was pathetic for awhile in a pot and I planted it about a month ago. I don't know if I thanked you back when you advised me, but, thank you for that advise because I was going to toss it. Still small, but, it's put out this new growth not even a week ago. I'm thrilled, too, because I got a full refund for this one.
Whoops...forgot to say 'she' is my roommate and good friend.


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Jul 24, 2023 6:20 PM CST
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Name: Mike Stewart
Lower Hudson Valley, New York (Zone 7a)
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Photo Contest Winner 2020 Garden Photography Roses Bulbs Peonies
Lover of wildlife (Black bear badge) Dog Lover Cat Lover Birds Enjoys or suffers cold winters Region: New York
That's great that Firefighter is coming along!
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