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Aug 26, 2023 9:45 AM CST
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Name: Walter Fritsch Jr
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We have had this tree for years and would like some help on repotting of such. Any recommendations would be greatly appreciated. Please advise
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Aug 26, 2023 10:33 AM CST
Name: Tiffany purpleinopp
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That's a great looking Schefflera! What are your goals for it? Do you want it to keep getting bigger, or has it reached the limit of the available space?
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Aug 26, 2023 12:08 PM CST
Name: Al F.
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Thanks for your service, Wally!

I can walk you through some of the steps in the repotting process, which is different than potting up. Repotting includes bare-rooting and root pruning, and relieves all stress associated with root congestion. Potting up partially relieves some of the stress from root congestion, but ensures the congestion in the center of the root mass remains as an unseen limitation on your plant's potential growth, vitality, ability to defend itself, and often appearance. Ask if you have questions

First, the best time to repot your scheff would be in June (in the Northern Hemisphere). During the annual growth cycle, a houseplant's level of vitality and stored energy can vary significantly. Most tropical and subtropical plants are best repotted immediately prior to or within 2 weeks either side of when their potential for growth peaks. Since sun intensity and day length peak at the summer solstice (21 Jun), the plant's stored energy reserves will be high and increasing, and its ability to make its own food (photosynthesis) will also be at peak levels. What this means is, all else equal, the plant will recover faster if you time your repotting to coincide approximately with the Summer Solstice or Father's Day than at any other interval of the growth cycle. So, my suggestion would be to wait until then. Your plant doesn't look like it's circling the drain, so it should have no difficulty maintaining until then. It simply makes good growing sense to avoid unnecessarily stressing plants when energy reserves are low (fall through Memorial Day), and taking advantage of that late spring/early summer period where growth is most robust to complete heavy tasks like hard pruning and repotting.

Another important consideration is that, surprisingly, synthesizing defensive chemicals against insects and disease is low on your plant's list of priorities. Plants send energy to its various parts (called energy sinks) in a specific order or prioritization. Energy is first allocated to respiratory function, i.e. to maintenance of living tissues, then, to production of fine roots, followed by flower and seed/fruit production, then primary growth (extension of both roots and shoots), then secondary growth (thickening), and finally, the synthesis of defensive chemicals.

Using your tree as an example, repotting it in late fall winter might require 3 months or more to recover to the degree it might only take 2 weeks to realize in Jun. During that period, the plant will be considerably more vulnerable to insect herbivory and disease pathogens than it would be if the timing was better. So not only will you FEEL like a better care giver, you'll actually BE one.

The tree you'll see was given to me by some people at church who were moving. The idea was, I would work on the tree and give it to someone else in the congregation. I ended up sending it to Boston to a guy who killed his fiance's scheff while she was on holiday.

Starting point, with the plant clearly out of bounds:
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Plant back within bounds, ready for the repot. There is a little scheff 'root-over-rock' composition in the image, lower RH corner.
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Ready to start:
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After removing the bottom 2/3 of the roots:
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Bare-rooting and rootwork complete. I did remove the remaining circling roots around the perimeter of the root mass:
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Repot completed:
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I had an image that showed the prolific back-budding, but I messed it up in a photo app. This is the guy's fiance after the tree and pot was shipped to him/her. Even after shipping the tree that wasn't yet fully established in the pot, it's doing very well:
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When you do repot, the change in growth rate and vitality will astound you. Just remember the significant increase in both is not a growth spurt, it is just the tree returning to its ability to grow normally, as it could have been growing all along if not for the stress and limitations associated with root congestion. When potting up (vs repotting) the improvement you'll see will only be a fraction of what it would be had you repotted, and the fact there IS improvement after repotting OR potting up is clear indication of how stressful root congestion can be.

In the temporal, repotting is significantly more stressful than potting up, but it is essential if we are to provide plants with their best opportunity to maximize realization of their genetic potential. Over the long term and all else equal, growth rate and vitality levels of trees regularly repotted will be very conspicuously superior to plants potted up. Unlike performing a full repot, potting up can be undertaken at any time of year w/o much in the way of concern; however, it's still better to time your potting up session so they occur in summer because of the quicker recovery time. The only time I repot a plant out of season is if I'm quite certain the plant will die before a more appropriate time to repot comes around.

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Aug 27, 2023 12:41 PM CST
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Wally, if your goal is simply to get your plant back to a more compact size and form, I would suggest making it easy on yourself and taking a few cuttings (make sure they are stem cuttings, not just the leaves), rooting them in a jar of water, and then planting those cuttings together. Leave the "mother plant" growing until you're sure your cuttings have rooted and then are happy once you pot them up. I've done this with my schefflera many times, and my cuttings have never failed to form roots in the water and then "take" when I put them into a pot with potting mix.
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Aug 27, 2023 1:19 PM CST
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Wally2007, There are other options then the two mentioned above but first we need to know your vision for your plant's future.
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Aug 28, 2023 11:34 AM CST
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Name: Walter Fritsch Jr
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I am most grateful for all the provided options. I will make a note of such. We will probably do this time permitting when we both decide what option we decide on.
Thanks again, greatly appreciated.
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Aug 28, 2023 12:59 PM CST
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There is a third option of a more gentle re-pot. To keep it in the same size pot and control growth, do a little root pruning and a little canopy pruning. The general rule is cut the bottom off the roots (it can be just an inch or so), calculate what percentage of roots you have removed then cut an equal amount off the canopy.

Good luck with your re-pot.
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Aug 28, 2023 5:11 PM CST
Name: Tiffany purpleinopp
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Best luck, Wally! If you decide to trim and want more plants, know that Scheffs propagate very easily.
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Aug 28, 2023 7:24 PM CST
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Lucy68 said: There is a third option of a more gentle re-pot. To keep it in the same size pot and control growth, do a little root pruning and a little canopy pruning. The general rule is cut the bottom off the roots (it can be just an inch or so), calculate what percentage of roots you have removed then cut an equal amount off the canopy.

This is exactly what I do every few years. The plant is as big as my space allows and the pot - a 5 gal. bin - is the heaviest I can carry outside in spring and in again in fall. I've been able to keep it pretty much the same size and healthy for about 10 years now.
One of those repottings, I couldn't resist rooting a cut-off branch, so now I have a second one almost the same size.
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Feb 25, 2024 1:17 PM CST
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Name: Walter Fritsch Jr
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Here we are spring approaching. We never took any action on all of your advice. However just today I went through all of the postings again. We will probably undertake this project sometime in June. We have decided to prune the excess roots as well as the canopy likely propagate as well.
When doing such would there be any harm in adding the Miracle Grow small spikes or even the spray they offer as well?
Thanks again.
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Feb 28, 2024 7:18 AM CST
Name: Tiffany purpleinopp
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I'm not a fan of the spikes. I believe they are responsible for killing a few of my plants in the past.
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Feb 28, 2024 8:18 AM CST
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Or make it easy on yourself and lift it out of that pot, put it in a bigger one with soil underneath to keep the soil surface about an inch below the top, and fill in around it with fresh soil. Water well and put it back in place.
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Feb 28, 2024 11:46 AM CST
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Name: Walter Fritsch Jr
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Well taken. Will make a note of all of your advice. Thanks MUCH!!
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Feb 28, 2024 6:37 PM CST
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Don't fertilize when you re-pot for 2 reasons:

- Most potting soil comes with a built in supply of fertilizer so you will be adding fertilizer to soil with fertilizer already in it.

- When plants are first repotted, they need time to recover from the stress so don't need added stress.

I would never use the tree spikes as they provide an overdose of fertilizer in one spot and none in other spots.
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Feb 29, 2024 10:17 AM CST
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I prefer liquid fertlizer in the watering rather than spikes or spraying it on leaves.
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Feb 29, 2024 12:35 PM CST
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Name: Walter Fritsch Jr
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Greatly Appreciated!!
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