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Nov 19, 2023 10:50 PM CST
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I am inquiring about this as this season I was totally gobsmacked by one of my very early seedlings that I still grow here. It is one of the very first hybridizing efforts on my part and to be truthful it isn't a particularly spectacular daylily but it is all mine . It has no name and grows in a somewhat neglected garden out in the field where I have a few daylily beds to grow seedlings in. Anyway this year I collected over 400 seeds from this plant at last count and then gave up counting . Now these are all from bee pods and I am debating whether to plant some or not . What do you think? Should I give some of them a go ? I know that most growers frown on bee pod seeds.
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Nov 20, 2023 2:47 PM CST
Name: Zoia Bologovsky
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Well, why not? If you have the space, you can just see what they look like and if there's any flower you like. You're not growing them for commercial distribution.
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Nov 21, 2023 1:02 PM CST
Name: Larry
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I have a few daylilies that make lots of bee pods, but I don't collect them so I don't know how to judge how many seeds those plants might actually make during a season. I would think for a few of them it would be in the hundreds.
If a person should or should not plant seeds from bee pods depends on a lot of different things. If you have the room and the time to devote to them and the possibilities of what they might produce intrigues you then why not plant them? I have seen lots of registered plants with unknown parents.
I think to a large degree the success in creating great plants is a numbers game, so if you have 400 seeds that would certainly increase you chances of having a great plant among them over planting only a small number of seeds.
Of course for a hybridizer pursuing a specific outcome, planting bee pods would not appeal to him a great deal.
I have often wondered if instead of going to all the trouble involved in hybridizing and planting individual seeds, if I would not have more favorable results by just making the crosses with selected parents then just planting all the resulting seeds in a mass planting then waiting three years and selecting from those plants.
As I get older and less able to do all the physical aspects of hybridizing that may be what I have to consider.
I just planted two small beds of seeds(about 500 seeds) and just planting the seeds was almost more than I could do physically over a three day period. I still have hundreds of seeds left and it is very tempting to just toss those seeds in a mass planting.
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Nov 22, 2023 6:08 AM CST
Name: Dianne
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As a daylily lover (which we all are), one part of my brain says: if you have seeds plus space = plant! Why not? The bees have come up with many spectacular plants ... based just on sheer numbers. And yes, with 400+ seeds, the odds of having something you really like goes up.

As a (very small-time) breeder of daylilies, I have come to dislike not having the full background on seedlings I am growing. When you do get something really nice, it's irksome not to know 'where on earth did that come from'? Would I kick something out of the garden, if it's beautiful, just because I can't track the full history? No.

And if you are growing daylilies because you just love daylilies (not a commercial grower / breeder / seller of daylilies) and you have a place to grow the seeds out (and time and energy to pursue this) then plant them. Any daylily seed, left unplanted, is 'potential' that is wasted and lost forever.

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Nov 22, 2023 7:18 AM CST
Name: Orion
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The only difference between a mutt and a purebred is a piece of paper.
You can take any seedling, knowing nothing about the parentage, and as soon as you register it (getting that bit of "paper"), it is now an official cultivar. For $20 or so.

The system is a bit of a joke, really, and all conceptual. As breeders like Ron Reimer keep showing us (he does not keep track of parentage of any of his cultivars). As soon as you get that official stamp on any seedling it is now officially "purebred".
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Nov 23, 2023 7:58 AM CST
Name: Vickie
southern Indiana (Zone 6b)
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If I had the room, I would plant all of them. I had about 20 or 30 seeds that were bee-pollinated on South Seas many years ago. Almost all of them looked so similar to South Seas that I trashed them, but it was fun to see how they turned out.
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