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Jan 24, 2024 5:18 PM CST
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Name: Johannian
The Black Hills, SD (Zone 4b)
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Ok, so I have a site picked out for the peas (they're snap peas). It's in full sun, with well-draining soil, and tons of worms. I'm going to mix in 2-4 inches of compost, and plant them 2 inches apart.

I really want them to be a success, but this is my first year trying them. In your experience, are peas an easy crop to grow, or are they a bit fussy? And should I realistically expect a harvest by summertime? I saw a bunch of sites and articles that stated it was a crop that's harvest in springtime, but with how my climate is, my crops always seem to be ready a bit later than they're supposed to be.

Thanks so much, and any help/info is appreciated!
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Jan 24, 2024 6:11 PM CST
Name: Sally
central Maryland (Zone 7b)
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Easy easy!
I find them easy. I plant by some locally recommended date and ignore, unless they need water.
Dillard or other may chime in.
I seem to recall him saying start them with some fertilizer. Thinking
Plant it and they will come.
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Jan 24, 2024 7:05 PM CST
Name: Sandy B.
Ford River Twp, Michigan UP (Zone 4b)
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I've found them quite easy to grow; I'm not sure how the wild temperature swings that you seem to get will affect them, though, Johannian Confused . (Plant earlier rather than later - they don't mind cool soil.)
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Jan 24, 2024 7:25 PM CST
Name: Bea
PNW (Zone 8b)
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I was reading an article about Nyctinastic Plants. Very interesting.
There are many plants that are nyctinastic like Legumes closing up leaves at night, more include:
Beans, Peas,Clover,Vetch,Alfalfa,Cowpeas…
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Jan 24, 2024 11:24 PM CST
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Name: Johannian
The Black Hills, SD (Zone 4b)
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Thanks for the info, guys. Guess I'll just plant them and see how it goes. No need to sweat it. I've had bad results in the past with melons, so I didn't want to ruin these peas as I've done with melons in our native soil.
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Jan 25, 2024 5:52 AM CST
Name: Sally
central Maryland (Zone 7b)
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Totally different beast.
I haven't grown a good melon either.
Plant it and they will come.
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Jan 25, 2024 5:54 AM CST
Name: stone
near Macon Georgia (USA) (Zone 8a)
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Joseph Lofthouse grows a lot of stuff out your way that really pushes the margins... You may want to have a look at the seed he's developed...

As far as Spring peas?
Should be a natural for your garden... If you are able to protect from critters.
Everything eats pea plants....
So... One year I built a box and stapled poultry wire to it 4 foot in height and was able to keep the rabbits out... And the peas did fine... But, picking was difficult....

And... If you don't already have a deer proof garden? Forget it.
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Jan 25, 2024 6:52 AM CST
Name: Sally
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Yup.
I think about just eating pea leaves Instead of waiting for pea pods. But then I don't do it, lol.
Plant it and they will come.
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Jan 25, 2024 7:07 AM CST
Name: Sally
central Maryland (Zone 7b)
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Nitrogen!
I just read thru my garden notes and found where Dillard said early peas need nitrogen because of cool soil ( the organic sources from soil biology are less active/ slow?)
Plant it and they will come.
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Jan 25, 2024 8:45 AM CST
Name: Caroline Scott
Calgary (Zone 4a)
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Peas are easy to grow in cool weather.
Keeping critters and birds away is the hard part for me.
I have heard that adding fertilizer when sowing into cold soil is a good idea.
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Jan 25, 2024 9:22 AM CST
Name: Sandy B.
Ford River Twp, Michigan UP (Zone 4b)
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Good fences definitely make good "neighbors," especially when those neighbors have 4 legs. I don't seem to have the problem with birds in the garden that other people experience, despite there being lots of birds around all the time. Robins really do like blueberries, though!
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Jan 27, 2024 2:00 PM CST
Name: Anne
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stone said: If you don't already have a deer proof garden? Forget it.


I agree Peas are irresistible to stupid deer and rabbits. You'll need a good tall fence lined with chicken wire at the bottom.
Ban the GMO tomato!
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Jan 27, 2024 8:48 PM CST
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Name: Johannian
The Black Hills, SD (Zone 4b)
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Thanks for the info, guys! It helps a lot. I figured critters would be a problem, so I set up a fence already. My garden was ravaged by deer three times last year; not gonna happen again!
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Jan 27, 2024 9:01 PM CST
Name: Sandy B.
Ford River Twp, Michigan UP (Zone 4b)
(Zone 4b-maybe 5a)
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Until they start mocking you..

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Jan 27, 2024 10:07 PM CST
Name: Bea
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Of yeah… Giant "Trouble makers". Each new mom brings her baby doe's every spring…it's a deer family route passed down from each generation.
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Jan 27, 2024 10:52 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Johannian
The Black Hills, SD (Zone 4b)
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Sandy, that picture is just Grumbling Grumbling

Yup, happens here too, Bea. Honestly I don't care if she brings them around to eat the bread and stuff that we put out, just…leave the stinkin' garden alone for goodness sake.
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Jan 27, 2024 10:57 PM CST
Name: Bea
PNW (Zone 8b)
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Johannian The deer think the garden plants is a salad bar just for them.
I’m so busy... “I don’t know if I found a rope or lost a horse.”
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Jan 28, 2024 12:10 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Johannian
The Black Hills, SD (Zone 4b)
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Ha, of course they do, and I know you can't blame them; they're just dumb animals. So, it's up to me to keep 'em out.
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Jan 28, 2024 2:01 PM CST
Name: Amanda
KC metro area, Missouri (Zone 6a)
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When you do a fence you will need to do a two layer approach to stymie them. One fence taller than the other and possibly even plants in between to throw them off as well. Deer can't judge distance and height very well when there's two fences and other things to throw their senses off.
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Jan 28, 2024 2:05 PM CST
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sallyg said: Totally different beast.
I haven't grown a good melon either.


Try a Mango Melon. I can't grow any melon where I am, but I can grow those

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