This thread is in reply to a blog post by aspenhill entitled "Shrub Assessment".
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Feb 20, 2024 4:15 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Annie
Waynesboro, PA (Zone 6a)
Cat Lover Region: Pennsylvania Keeper of Poultry
Buddleja butterfly bush? Be careful pruning it down. I followed Monty's advice and cut mine right back to the ground and it was two years before I saw any blooms again. It might depend on what type it is; my full size ones are all "wild" things I got as pass-alongs.
Lilacs? I'm having trouble here with my admittedly ancient lilacs. They look terrible. Another big main trunk rotted off and fell over last month. Are you seeing any problems?
I am not "country" I am "landed gentry."
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Feb 20, 2024 4:35 PM CST
Name: Terri
Lucketts, VA (Zone 7a)
Region: Mid-Atlantic Region: Virginia Dog Lover Lover of wildlife (Raccoon badge) Deer Ponds
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My buddleja is one of the dwarf ones and I thought it was dead last year. It eventually greened up a bit but it didn't bloom very well at all. Both Monty and Laura have said they cut theirs nearly to the ground and that they have success with it. I guess I'll give it a go, not much to lose with the condition it currently is in, but the one at Bonnie's cottage has been so nice and healthy and bloomed like crazy last summer. I'll pass on the caution, and suggest to her that we leave hers alone.

Lilacs, no problem here. They aren't ancient though - no thick trunks. The noid white one grew from a 4 inch passalong single stem which I got in 2014. It is finally about 5 or 6 feet and started blooming about 3 years ago. Trunks are still skinny. The noid purple one was one of the first shrubs I ever purchased for the garden back in 1994. It was in way too much shade, so although it stayed alive, it never grew very much and never bloomed. I should have relocated it years ago, but I never did. Then the oak trees that shaded it were some of the ones that have been dying over the last few years and were removed. That lilac has finally gotten the sun that it needs and has started to bloom!

I've seen Laura on Garden Answer deal with dying trunks on the ancient lilacs on her property, and boy these trunks are sizable. I never realized that lilacs could be more like trees than shrubs before I saw hers in some of the videos. She has removed the dead trunks, thinned and limbed up others. On some of them, she hopes it will give them additional life, but others she thinks they will probably need to be taken out sooner rather than later Shrug!
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Feb 21, 2024 9:14 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Annie
Waynesboro, PA (Zone 6a)
Cat Lover Region: Pennsylvania Keeper of Poultry
This makes me think my lilacs are coming to the end of their lives. I should probly dig up the best looking suckers and move them into a nursery bed to get some size on them before replanting. My lilacs are ancient. They have been here on my property for 35 years BUT I got them from the house across the road, where they were HUGE old bushes lined up along the road. When the township widened the road, they cut them down and dug them out with a backhoe. We were just moved in here so I asked the guys could I have the big root balls and they brought them over and plopped them down where I had hastily dug planting holes, all along our south border (which was just an open field at that time). Those lilacs had to be at least 40+ years old at that point so the root balls might be 70+ now.
I am not "country" I am "landed gentry."
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Feb 22, 2024 11:36 AM CST
Name: Terri
Lucketts, VA (Zone 7a)
Region: Mid-Atlantic Region: Virginia Dog Lover Lover of wildlife (Raccoon badge) Deer Ponds
Foliage Fan Ferns Hellebores Irises Peonies Amaryllis
Annie, I found the specific Garden Answer video where Laura focused on one of her ancient lilacs. It is a good one and I think you'll appreciate the visual for what you could possibly do with yours. Enjoy!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
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Feb 23, 2024 10:53 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Annie
Waynesboro, PA (Zone 6a)
Cat Lover Region: Pennsylvania Keeper of Poultry
Thank you so much! This is almost exactly what I'm facing here and I think I have a rot problem with the older branches because two very large trunks (4 inch diameter at base) broke right out of the ground this winter.
I am not "country" I am "landed gentry."
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