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Apr 4, 2024 6:58 AM CST
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Yadkimville, North Carolina
Please help me identify this bush it bears no fruit, blooms in spring with fragrant cream colored small clustered tubular blooms. The fragrance is wonderful. Pictures are included thanks so much.
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Apr 4, 2024 7:17 AM CST
Name: stone
near Macon Georgia (USA) (Zone 8a)
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Eleagnus of some type.

Most of these are invasive...
How many thorns are you seeing?

There is a Goumi type with no thorns... and if you are lucky enough to catch the fruit when ripe... yummy.

The lack of fruit doesn't mean no fruit ever... Just that you didn't see the fruit.

Goumi (Elaeagnus multiflora)
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Apr 4, 2024 10:19 AM CST
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Yadkimville, North Carolina
stone said: Eleagnus of some type.

Most of these are invasive...
How many thorns are you seeing?

There is a Goumi type with no thorns... and if you are lucky enough to catch the fruit when ripe... yummy.

The lack of fruit doesn't mean no fruit ever... Just that you didn't see the fruit.

Goumi (Elaeagnus multiflora)
There are no thorns and there to my knowledge has never been fruit it is situated between driveways on our farm bur doesn't seem to be invasive it is only in that location for 10 years.
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Apr 4, 2024 10:21 AM CST
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Yadkimville, North Carolina
stone said: Eleagnus of some type.

Most of these are invasive...
How many thorns are you seeing?

There is a Goumi type with no thorns... and if you are lucky enough to catch the fruit when ripe... yummy.

The lack of fruit doesn't mean no fruit ever... Just that you didn't see the fruit.

Goumi (Elaeagnus multiflora)
Thank you for sharing your knowledge.
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Apr 4, 2024 2:03 PM CST
Name: Lin Vosbury
Sebastian, Florida (Zone 10a)

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Maybe a variety of Daphne??
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Apr 4, 2024 7:43 PM CST
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Yadkimville, North Carolina
plantladylin said: Maybe a variety of Daphne??
I think that is close most varieties of dapne have cream colored flower but have rose colored tube on flower but I think it is a variety of dapne is the closest yet thank you so much for replying.
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Apr 5, 2024 6:54 AM CST
Name: stone
near Macon Georgia (USA) (Zone 8a)
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I was trying to get pictures of my guomi yesterday...
They're in bloom here too... Unfortunately the only camera I have working is on flip phone... and with the dappled shade, I just couldn't get a decent picture

Thought I had pics from previous years... but not finding...

Goumi isn't invasive.... But There's a ton of silver-thorn here that looks very similar to guomi... Except for the thorns... and aggressiveness.
Was actually eating eleagnus pungens fruit last week...
https://plants.ces.ncsu.edu/pl...

I've never seen daphne get that large here... And... the flowers are very different.
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Apr 5, 2024 7:33 AM CST
Name: stone
near Macon Georgia (USA) (Zone 8a)
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Ok... Googling around trying to pin this down.

Check this picture:
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https://www.inaturalist.org/gu...
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Apr 5, 2024 8:12 AM CST
Perthshire. SCOTLAND. UK
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It is 100% Elaeagnus sp ...just not sure which ones you grow over there.
Reminds me of Elaeagnus umbellata that we used to grow...but cannot be positive.
The scent from the flowers is amazing.
See my pics.
If you look closely you can see the tiny brown freckles .spots typical of Elaeagnus.
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Apr 5, 2024 8:15 AM CST
Name: Sally
central Maryland (Zone 7b)
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agree- Eleagnus
Plant it and they will come.
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Apr 5, 2024 9:50 AM CST
Name: Lin Vosbury
Sebastian, Florida (Zone 10a)

Region: Ukraine Region: United States of America Bird Bath, Fountain and Waterfall Region: Florida Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
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One possibility: Autumn Olive (Elaeagnus umbellata)

More info and photos on this page: https://plants.ces.ncsu.edu/pl...

This page lists it as E. umbellata var. parvifolia which is a synonym of E. umbellata. https://www.carolinanature.com...
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Apr 5, 2024 10:35 AM CST
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Yadkimville, North Carolina
I think we have it narrowed down to
Elaeagnus umbelleta. Thank you all for the help in identifying the plant. I am going to try to root some shoots to plant at our other farms. Your help was greatly appreciated. May we all have a good growing season and may your gardens be plentiful.
Thanks so much
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Apr 6, 2024 7:30 AM CST
Name: stone
near Macon Georgia (USA) (Zone 8a)
Garden Sages Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Plant Identifier
Did you check the link I posted?

Autumn-olive is ranked as a "severe threat" (exotic plant species that possess characteristics of invasive species and spread easily into native plant communities and displace native vegetation) by the Tennessee Exotic Pest Plant Council [54]. It is also ranked as a "severe threat" (exotic plant species which possess characteristics of invasive species and spread easily into native plant communities and displace native vegetation; includes species which are or could become widespread in Kentucky) by the Kentucky Exotic Pest Plant Council [30].

Autumn-olive is listed among the top 10 exotic pest plants in Georgia [17], and among "highly invasive species" (species that may disrupt ecosystem processes and cause major alterations in plant community composition and structure and that establish readily in natural systems and spread rapidly) by the Virginia Department of Conservation and Recreation [69]. It is listed as a Category II exotic plant species (considered to have the potential to displace native plants either on a localized or widespread scale) by the Vermont Agency of Natural Resources and The Nature Conservancy of Vermont [68], and as a noxious weed in several West Virginia counties [64].

U.S. Forest Service Region 8 (Southern Region) lists autumn-olive as a category 1 weed (exotic plant species that are known to be invasive and persistent throughout all or most of their range within the Southern Region and that can spread into and persist in native plant communities and displace native plant species and therefore pose a demonstrable threat to the integrity of the natural plant communities in the Region). The introduction of Category 1 Species is prohibited on National Forest System Lands [65].


Not something that needs help being spread....

Might even be against some laws.
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