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Oct 20, 2013 6:26 PM CST
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I found this over in the cactus forum, and wanted to share it with all of you. Some fascinating photos and information.
Right now David is in Turkey researching a new species of Sempervivum.


ACTA SUCCULENTA, the new, free online Journal

A new, free online journal dedicated to the world of succulent plants is now available online: Acta Succulenta.

It's downloadable in 3 distinct editions (English, French and Italian), free of advertising. I'm the Editor of the Journal.

http://acta-succulenta.eu/Acta... (English)

http://acta-succulenta.eu/Acta... (French)

http://acta-succulenta.eu/Acta... (Italian)

http://www.acta-succulenta.eu

The download is free.
The size of the pdf file is quite big, so please be patient while it downloads.

Any article about succulent plants is welcome.

I hope you enjoy Acta Succulenta.

(and I hope that this is the right place for this message)

Davide Donati
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Oct 21, 2013 1:33 AM CST
Name: Chris
Ripon, Wisconsin
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Sages Garden Ideas: Master Level Seller of Garden Stuff I sent a postcard to Randy!
Sempervivums Sedums Region: Wisconsin Hosted a Not-A-Raffle-Raffle Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Avid Green Pages Reviewer
Good deal! I'll have to check it out when I get some time. Thumbs up
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Oct 21, 2013 7:41 AM CST
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Chris it really is an amazing journal. The journal is filled with information and photos for each plant featured. I am so excited about the research David is doing right now, in Turkey. He said they have found a new Sempervivum.
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Oct 21, 2013 8:45 AM CST
Name: Chris
Ripon, Wisconsin
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Sages Garden Ideas: Master Level Seller of Garden Stuff I sent a postcard to Randy!
Sempervivums Sedums Region: Wisconsin Hosted a Not-A-Raffle-Raffle Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Avid Green Pages Reviewer
That's exciting! Hurray! Hurray!
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Oct 21, 2013 10:15 AM CST
Name: Greg Colucci
Seattle WA (Zone 8b)
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The photos are amazing!! How cool!! A new semp! Hurray! I tip my hat to you. Thanks for sharing this great journal Lynn! Thumbs up
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Oct 21, 2013 11:04 AM CST
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Name: Lynn
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I thank David for finding us and posting here at ATP. I really want to follow his journal, it will be amazing what we will learn from his research.
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Oct 21, 2013 12:53 PM CST

Ooops, I didn't explain well...

I'm in Turkey now, close to the Iranian border (internet is excellent), for a field research about Sempervivum, but the new species I'm going to describe (with GĂ©rard Dumont) is from... it's a surprise!

Can you forgive me if I upload some pics just taken here?

Sempervivum minus



Sempervivum davisii
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Oct 21, 2013 12:56 PM CST
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David, I can hardly contain my excitement. The photos are wonderful. Do I have your permission to add the photo of S. davissi to our Sempervivum database here at ATP?
You can post any of your photos here, we would be filled with joy to see them.
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Oct 21, 2013 12:58 PM CST
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Name: Lynn
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Would this be the same as this S. davissi?
Hen and Chicks (Sempervivum davisii from road to Artvin, Ardahan )
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Oct 21, 2013 1:31 PM CST
Name: Peter Dieckmann
Germany
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certainly another pick-up place Lynn; unlikely he took this photo at the same road ;-)
www.sempervivum-liste.de
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Oct 21, 2013 1:40 PM CST
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Name: Lynn
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So Peter, would we make a separate entry in the database, Sempervivum davisii?
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Oct 21, 2013 2:15 PM CST
Name: Peter Dieckmann
Germany
Region: Europe Sempervivums Container Gardener Hibiscus Bee Lover Butterflies
Dragonflies Birds Hummingbirder Frogs and Toads Dog Lover Cat Lover
I agree

we also can ask for more location-infos and make a new locale-form-entry....but there would be no more photos because it isn't in collections;

I think we should collect such photos in a pure genus-entry; Rolling my eyes.
www.sempervivum-liste.de
www.hauswurze.de
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Oct 21, 2013 3:25 PM CST
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The new entry is done. Thumbs up
Waiting to hear from David, to see if we can add the above photo to the database.

How exciting that must be, to see them growing in their natural habitat.
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Oct 21, 2013 10:37 PM CST
Name: Greg Colucci
Seattle WA (Zone 8b)
Sempervivums Sedums Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Cactus and Succulents Container Gardener Garden Ideas: Level 1
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How beautiful! Thank you David! Enjoy your research! I tip my hat to you.
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Oct 23, 2013 12:14 PM CST

Hi, I'm still alive ;-) and internet works better here than at home!

You are free to use my pictures in your database

S. davisii is from Yusufeli, not far from Artvin.
S. minus from South of Rize.

Why don't you create a sub-database for wild Sempervivum?

I can send you other photos of wild plants (from everywhere they are growing, included Iran) once at home, but this will take a while ;-)

Or better, every issue of Acta Succulenta I'll send you some pictures of the plant described or mentioned in the column "Urcaela" (Houseleek in my dialect).

Do you agree?
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Oct 23, 2013 4:58 PM CST
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Name: Lynn
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Thank you so much for the permission to use the photos in our database. They will be protected from unauthorized use.

We do have specie sempervivum in the database, some of which are the same specie, but from different areas.
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Oct 23, 2013 5:29 PM CST
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Here you go David. See if this look right.
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Oct 24, 2013 5:35 PM CST
Name: Kevin Vaughn
Salem OR (Zone 8a)
Davide,

What a GORGEOUS publication. You should be commended for gathering such wonderful information and glorious photographs.

If I had one comment it would be to your comments on the cultivars of S. calcareum. I grow both 'extra' and 'Pink Pearl' and think both clones are well worth growing and sufficiently distinct from other clones. The symmetry of 'Extra' makes it one of my favorites. However, as you note, there are NO bad calcareums!

In the US calcareum blooms very rarely but I have used it as a parent in some of my earliest crosses as it produced lovely fluffy pollen. The cross of 'Cleveland Morgan' (predominantly montanum breeding) X S. calcareum gave 'Greenwich Time', which is a velvety purple in spring but turns to a velvety version of calcareum later in the season. It is nearly sterile, unfortunately. Because it was so easy to make hybrids with calcareum pollen I'm thinking that the complete sterility of the hybrids may have prevented the widespread occurrence of such events in nature. 'Greenwich Time' is certainly the exception in fertility among the sempervivum hybrids. The flowers of the hybrid are very close in color to calcareum too.

Kevin
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