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Mar 18, 2016 9:22 PM CST
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Name: Ssissina
Guadeloupe (Zone 10b)
I came across this specie??? From the ground it looked like jojoba, I got excited as I have never seen real jojoba fruit before. So I got my husband to pick me some of the fruit. ...3 days later, the fruit / pod opened up into a sort of heavy petal flower. It looks alien!
What the h3ll is this, please???

Thanks
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Mar 18, 2016 9:51 PM CST
Name: Jean
Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a)
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Possibly Illicium verum, star anise or a relative.

http://www.kew.org/science-con...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
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Mar 18, 2016 9:58 PM CST
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Name: Ssissina
Guadeloupe (Zone 10b)
These pods are the size of a kiwi. The tree is not a shrub as the star anise, it's more of a woody tree well over 50 feet tall with massive branches. The leaves are different too than the elliptic slender shape of the star anise. The are obovated and shiny. A real dark forest Green. Thanks for your answer though, I appreciate your help.
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Mar 18, 2016 11:06 PM CST
Name: vee
Pasadena, CA (Zone 10a)
Hi Ssissina!

I'm not sure what this is but the fruit inside those funky pods looks like Carambola aka starfruit. The tree of starfruit is also a woody plant similar to what you described. Perhaps they are related!

-vee
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Mar 19, 2016 12:02 AM CST
Name: Kurt
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looks like a mangosteen to me
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Mar 19, 2016 2:17 AM CST
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Well, I know for sure it's neither star fruit, nor anise, nor mangosteen. @ssissina...they are from your Caribbean island. Hilarious! Do tell, please. Big Grin
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Mar 19, 2016 5:46 AM CST
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Name: Ssissina
Guadeloupe (Zone 10b)
Yes Rainbow, you are correct. I'm from the Caribbean therefore I am intimately familiar with star fruit, anise and mangosteen. It's definitely none of those. However, now I'm in guadeloupe, not my native island. I see plants here I have never seen before. This tree's flower looked like the jojoba fruit initially, but then it opened up into a flower. upon examining the flower on the 4 day, it seems like the transformation is not complete. The inner parts are in process of opening, the thick petals are releasing a glue. I will click another picture.
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Mar 19, 2016 7:31 AM CST
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Hi again! I think I should visit & see this in person... but... I still wouldn't know what it is... :+)
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Mar 19, 2016 7:35 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Ssissina
Guadeloupe (Zone 10b)
Hello Purpleinopp
I intend to upload more pictures as the changes progress. The actual tree however is about 40 miles from my home, so I can't post a pic of the tree right at this moment.
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Mar 19, 2016 8:31 AM CST
Name: Ken Ramsey
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Tiffany, I will go along to keep you company. Whistling
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The reason it's so hard to lose weight when you get up in age is because your body and your fat have become good friends.
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Mar 19, 2016 8:32 AM CST
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Name: Ssissina
Guadeloupe (Zone 10b)
Seems like I'll be making some new friends. Smiling
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Mar 19, 2016 8:35 AM CST
Name: Ken Ramsey
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The reason it's so hard to lose weight when you get up in age is because your body and your fat have become good friends.
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Mar 19, 2016 8:38 AM CST
Name: Jean
Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a)
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I wonder if this could be a species of Clusia or from that family Clusiaceae?


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Mar 19, 2016 8:43 AM CST
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Name: Ssissina
Guadeloupe (Zone 10b)
Seems like you are getting warm Moonhowl. The leaves are the same of the clusia, the pod to is kind of similar. I've put it in the sun to see what's going to happen next.
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Mar 19, 2016 8:59 AM CST
Name: Elaine
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Now that the flower is making 'juice' is there any sort of scent to it, Ssissina?

That's a really interesting thing. Any chance you'll be visiting the location of the tree again? If so, maybe those flowers will develop into a fruit or something else . . . it seems that what you initially brought home were flower buds? The mystery may be solved by either seeing the leaves of the tree, or whatever develops after the flower.
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Mar 19, 2016 9:16 AM CST
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Name: Ssissina
Guadeloupe (Zone 10b)
Hello Dyzz! There is a smell. It's not a potent fragrance, it's more starchy than than fruity. And I am not going to taste it! Lol. Lol....haaaaaaahaaaaaaa. I will go back to the tree in the next 2 to 3 days.
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Mar 19, 2016 9:26 AM CST
Name: Jean
Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a)
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ssissina, before I forget my manners, Welcome! to ATP.

I do not think that is a bloom. It looks like very ripe fruit, as in your last picture you can see the tiny seeds lining the center.

The glue looks to be possibly sugary/sticky juice from the fruit
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Mar 19, 2016 9:33 AM CST
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Name: Ssissina
Guadeloupe (Zone 10b)
Hi moon howl, what you refer to as seeds does not actually look like seeds. One sec, I'm going to disect it.
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Mar 19, 2016 9:57 AM CST
Name: Jean
Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a)
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When I use zoom to give a close look at the center, it appears to my eye to be three center "lobes", each with a double row of immature seeds. Or a more alien description...three maws with teeth Blinking
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Mar 19, 2016 10:00 AM CST
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Name: Ssissina
Guadeloupe (Zone 10b)
Hello Moonowl! You are a winner! What you referred to as seeds, were rock solid. Therefore they are in actuality seeds. There was no big surprise after disecting this fruit. I removed the seeds, then cut the interior open, there was nothing else inside.
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