Would anyone with a rust free garden like to do a fall trade?

I would love to do a trade, but I have a rust in my garden and I don't have any daylilies yet that can be divided as most are small double fans. But hopefully, some folks here will be interested.

We are rust free and would be interested. We grow about 900 registered DL's. We collect regularly so some may not yet divide but we should find some to agree on.

I would be interested if I have something you would like

I am rust free and would be interested in trading. I will be dividing over Labor Day weekend.

Gale

Hillbilly, I'm going to change your title for this thread to Fall Daylily Trades.
If you want to post your lists of wants and haves in this thread or do your trading privately with tmail that's fine. Have fun!

The response to this thread has been very good,Thanks!

Do you have a list of some you are looking for?

This is an interesting and valuable thread (fall trades from rust-free gardens), but sadly, not all of us are rust free.

I would suggest a trade (or send-for-postage) from the rusty gardens, but I am sure that would be upsetting to some (state Ag departments included), even if the giver was upright and honest about his garden/plant status, and the recipient didn't care (because they are already in the Rust Bucket or have cold winters).

I like to trade but have become selective. Sometimes you can be burned! Years ago I sent 5 of my newer plants and never got a box She never answered her emails again. I have been searching for Bullfrog Kisses and I did find it. The lady and I will be exchanging plants in the Spring. I have received some that looked like they had been dug for a week or others that wanted to trade plant for plant. I like to stay close to the monetary value.

Teresa I'm sorry to hear you've been had before. It's always better to do small trades first and establish relationships with people before you go sending hundreds of dollars worth of plants to them. Once a relationship is built then more plants can be shared safely and with a better peace of mind.

That said most members have established names for themselves in the garden.org community so when in doubt go see how active they are on garden.org. If they don't post often or haven't been a member long proceed with caution. Also check to see what photos they've added, if they say they have 500 daylilies and 300 irises but never shared a photo of either once again proceed with caution. Of coarse not posting much or not uploading photos doesn't make a person a crook, but the more active a person is the more they have to loose. The chance of an established garden.org member cheating you is slim to none because they wouldn't want to ruin their reputation in the garden.org community and the respect of fellow members over a trade.

This is not a shot at any member or in anyway trying discourage trading. These are just words of wisdom from someone who has traded plant material with hundreds of people from all over, both on garden.org and abroad. Trading is a great way to acquire new plants for your garden and I'm all for it. It's honestly how I have most of the plants I have now. Gardening is all about sharing both plant material and knowledge with one another. Happy trading everyone and I hope you all get some plants you've been looking for. All my daylilies are too small to trade or I'd join in but if anyone wants to trade a few seeds please feel free to tree mail me.

Polymerous said:
I would suggest a trade (or send-for-postage) from the rusty gardens, but I am sure that would be upsetting to some (state Ag departments included), even if the giver was upright and honest about his garden/plant status, and the recipient didn't care (because they are already in the Rust Bucket or have cold winters).

It may be hard to predict how these state Ag departments would react to rust. I get the impression that they're mostly concerned with pests and diseases which could be a threat to commercial crops. Still, I would want to ensure that if they inspected the plant that there would be no traces of any pest or disease.

I would at least clip/strip any rusty foliage, and might give the plant a shot of fungicide a week beforehand, depending on the wishes of the recipient. A light Clorox dip wouldn't hurt either. You don't want to give an inspector any excuse to reject the shipment.

The first time I ever saw rust was at a Big Box store, maybe 8-10 years ago, on a new shipment of Stella Wanna-Be's which were still in the receiving area. I showed it to the manager of the garden department, and gave him a quick rundown on what it was. I also called the county Ag people, and was surprised to find that they really didn't care about daylily rust. To the store's credit, when I went back a few days later, all of the rusty daylilies were gone.

Daniel, I was a new to daylilies collector when this happened. It was on Garden Wed and looking back, the person didn't post often or have a ton of pictures. She contacted me first. I was just gullible. I have had some wonderful trades with folks on this site. Just be aware not all people are honest.

I hope that in another year or two that I will have some clumps that I can divide and trade. My problem is that I do have rust. So I may not be a good member to trade with because of that. I suspect that most of my seedlings are evergreens too. But they could be isolated in your garden away from other daylilies.

And I am always open to seed trades.

Ken, I'm not really surprised that our CA Ag folks didn't care about rust. Presumably they inspect a lot of packages coming in (those plant-sniffing dogs...), and I've gotten a few nasty letters from them over the years, for my part in "importing" plants which they rejected for one reason or another - but never for rust or suspicious looking foliage.

A few years ago I received 2 plants off the Lily Auction which looked somewhat questionable (to say the least) - the foliage was somewhat of a sickly green but it was spotted all over with yellow. I dumped the plants into a soaking tub, and I swear that within a few days (a week, for certain) both had broken out into a YUGE amount of frank rust! It was horrifying! I threw out both plants and gave the LA seller a literary tongue lashing over it, and put them on my blacklist. (No, they never mentioned that they had rust in their garden, or that those particular plants were rusty. In the first case I might have decided to take my chances, but not in the second case.)

Teresa - sorry that you were burned that way. Why do some people have to be so... well.... evil? She must have been one of the 10% or so of the population who are psychopaths...

The Ag department only cares about food crops this is evident with them allowing the known importation of canna virus infected canna lilies into the US. Now every canna lily you buy from both brick and morter stores and websites are infected. Also if you've grown them for a number of years and don't have canna virus purchasing a new one can and likely will spread it to your old unaffected ones. The only safe way to grow new cannas are from seed and many of the nicer ones don't produce viable seed.

Becky I'll swap some daylily seeds with you. I'm sure I'll have something that may interest you.

Wow, Daniel.

We have one and only one canna, 'Tropicana'. I always thought that if we ever moved, I'd leave it behind and just get a new one. Now, I guess, maybe not. One more plant added to the long list to be moved (and how I am going to do that across state lines, which would most likely be the case, I don't know...).

Polymerous, aren't cannas bulbs? You should be able to dig it up and move it just fine. I guess living in CA they may be much stricter about plants. But I drove a car packed full of daylilies (could barely see out the back window & the front seat was full too) from NC to NY. Stopped at many a toll plaza and no one even made an offhand comment.

I know people should get their gardens inspected if they are shipping plants but I'm pretty sure if I went to the correct office to ask them to do it they would look at me like I had two heads and tell me to mail it and stop wasting their time.

Daniel - Thank you. That is very nice of you! I have not made a list of my seed crosses yet. I just started back to work a few weeks ago and am extremely busy at this time. Maybe later, in Winter, I will have the time to do an inventory to trade some seeds with you.

Typically, the inspectors are more interested in plants/seeds that come from overseas than they are anything moving around between US states (except for a few strict import states).

I confess that I have off and on thought about doing whatever is required to have this garden certified for legal shipping, but the whole process just seems to be daunting (and that's even if I never actually sell anything, which requires tons more paperwork and permits and fees). I can just imagine any plant inspector who set foot onto our property (after he recovered from getting "greeted" by our dog).

"Hmm... I see that you have slugs... and snails.... and a lot of that weed there. Lots of ants. Leaf spot on the irises.... aphids too.... That looks like some kind of grasshopper or locust over there - unusual for this area. Some leaf streak or something going on with these daylilies here, and is that rust over there on those daylilies?! And you want permission to ship your plants WHERE?!?"

Right...