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Sep 12, 2016 5:01 PM CST
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Name: Cheryl
North of Houston TX (Zone 9a)
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I have owned a lovely large Peace Lily for over 15 years. It's been healthy all summer and recently bloomed. Suddenly it is wilted and in great distress. I dug it up out of it's large pot and replaced the soil adding more perlite. There was no smell or evidence of rot. The roots were long and strong. There were 4 large plants and 2-3 small babies. It has been 3 days in the new soil and it is showing no signs of recovery. I fear I am going to lose them. I am open to any final ideas while she is on her last leg.
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Sep 13, 2016 11:34 AM CST
Name: Ken Ramsey
Vero Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
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Cheryl, my guess is that it became so root-bound, that simply watering it did no good. The water just ran straight through and out the drainage holes. If you are going to keep it intact as in the photo, I would place the pot in a large basin of water, deep enough that it comes to the top of the soil, and let it soak for several hours. Do this weekly until you know whether the plants will survive or not. Mist the leaves 2-3 times each day but have good air circulation so that the leaves have a chance to dry out between misting.

If this were my plant, I would divide it, separating the pups from the "mothers". Pot the pups up separately. Keep all the potting soils slightly moist, never allowing any of the pots' soils to dry out. If you lose the mature plants, perhaps you can save the pups. Perhaps you have already done this.
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Sep 13, 2016 2:29 PM CST
Name: Alice
Flat Rock, NC (Zone 7a)
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Sounds like she already repotted it Ken.

Cheryl, I don't think those old leaves will perk up again, I would cut them off and hope the plant sends out new growth. Be sure to look for any signs of insect infestation in the crown of the plants.
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Sep 16, 2016 7:31 AM CST
Name: Carter Mayer
Houston, TX (Zone 9b)
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My experience with these guys seems to be kind of in line with what Alice said. Ken's advice is spot on for root bound plants, but you mentioned it is already repotted. Soaking it too much at this point could lead to rot issues (if it's not allowed to dry somewhat between soakings).

I've repotted perfectly healthy spathipylum plants and they always seem to sulk get pouty by immediately wilting and (as my dad would say) "looking like the rats peed on them." Blinking nodding Some to most of the existing leaves may die, but they do generally start to send up new growth before too long. It's important to not water too much during this time as it will be more sensitive to root rot until you see it either perk back up or start to push up new growth.
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Sep 16, 2016 7:48 AM CST
Name: Ken Ramsey
Vero Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
Bromeliad Vegetable Grower Region: United States of America Tropicals Plumerias Orchids
Region: Mississippi Master Gardener: Mississippi Hummingbirder Cat Lover Composter Seller of Garden Stuff
Good points, Carter. Keep in mind that even though a terribly root-bound plant is re-potted (and I don't even know whether this plant was root-bound), that root-ball still will resist water retention. The new potting soil may be moist, but unless the root-ball has time to absorb water again, it will still stay dry. There is always a fine line between moist and soggy-wet. I just want my root-bound plant to re-hydrate when it has succumbed to drought-like conditions. Soaking is the only sure way I know to achieve this. Just my experience, you understand.
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Sep 16, 2016 7:54 AM CST
Name: Carter Mayer
Houston, TX (Zone 9b)
Adeniums Tropicals Plant Identifier
You are exactly right, Ken.
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Sep 16, 2016 2:09 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Cheryl
North of Houston TX (Zone 9a)
Region: Texas Greenhouse Plant Identifier Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Plumerias Ponds
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Thanks all. I'll be trimming the plant back and hoping for the best. Crossing Fingers! It was in a VERY large pot and nowhere rootbound. I have had the plant for 15 years but not in the same pot for 15 years. I have had it in the house for about 5 years. I am totally stumped as to why this has happened. But I will deal with it.
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Sep 16, 2016 2:15 PM CST
Name: Ken Ramsey
Vero Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
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OK, Cheryl, at least we know that it wasn't root-bound. Just forget all my advice, since it was based on a root-bound plant. Good luck.
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Sep 16, 2016 3:24 PM CST
Name: tarev
San Joaquin County, CA (Zone 9b)
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HI Cheryl, I have always found my Peace Lily very thirsty during summer, so I always water them often, then on situations where my peace lily is near death, a careful gently watering really helps them revive again. Twice it has happened to me, one time brought out by mistake so it got too toasty dry and this last August, it got too thirsty indoors while we were away for almost a month. Gently reviving with water, will eventually help it perk up.

It may be acclimating too from the changes you made, so give it time.

My Peace lily looked much worst that that but it came back:
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And recently this last August, you can still see the dried out damage on some leaves, but it is now sending me a new leaf:
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Sep 21, 2016 7:56 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Cheryl
North of Houston TX (Zone 9a)
Region: Texas Greenhouse Plant Identifier Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Plumerias Ponds
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We've started over but we have hope! NEW growth!

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Sep 22, 2016 6:50 AM CST
Name: Carter Mayer
Houston, TX (Zone 9b)
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Congrats! That's exciting!! Thumbs up
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Oct 2, 2016 12:42 PM CST
Name: Ken Ramsey
Vero Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
Bromeliad Vegetable Grower Region: United States of America Tropicals Plumerias Orchids
Region: Mississippi Master Gardener: Mississippi Hummingbirder Cat Lover Composter Seller of Garden Stuff
Things are looking up there, Cheryl @ ShadyGreenThumb.
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Oct 5, 2016 5:51 AM CST
Name: Laurie b
Western Washington (Zone 7b)
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So glad. I have seen spaths do this to their faithful owners before. Wonder if it is just something that they do sometimes.
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Oct 23, 2016 10:29 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Cheryl
North of Houston TX (Zone 9a)
Region: Texas Greenhouse Plant Identifier Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Plumerias Ponds
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Update. She seems to be bouncing back! It appears I didn't lose any. If I knew what happened, I'd surely prevent it if I could! Now all I need is time and patience to bring it back to the magnificent size it once was.
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Oct 23, 2016 12:27 PM CST
Name: tarev
San Joaquin County, CA (Zone 9b)
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That is so good to see Cheryl! It is on the mend, just keep on being patient with it, just gentle watering. It does like to be kept moist, once those new leaves are out. It sure is a fighter!
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Oct 23, 2016 12:45 PM CST
Name: Karen
New Mexico (Zone 8a)
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Hurray! Cheryl! It's great it's recovering nicely and shouldn't take too long to be beautiful again.
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Dec 14, 2016 5:00 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Cheryl
North of Houston TX (Zone 9a)
Region: Texas Greenhouse Plant Identifier Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Plumerias Ponds
Foliage Fan Enjoys or suffers hot summers Tropicals Garden Ideas: Master Level Garden Sages Million Pollinator Garden Challenge
Well, my plant appeared to be coming back and doing well. But now it is as if it's started again on the brand new leaves! What could it be? Should I totally repot them in something different? New soil? Washing the roots and disinfecting them somehow?
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Dec 14, 2016 8:15 PM CST
Name: Alice
Flat Rock, NC (Zone 7a)
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I may be way off base but that looks like fertilizer burn to me. Also, that potting medium looks like it has an over abundance of vermiculite.
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Dec 14, 2016 8:46 PM CST
Name: tarev
San Joaquin County, CA (Zone 9b)
Give PEACE a chance!
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Oh, sad to see that Cheryl..but maybe it is just adjusting to watering? Are you giving intervals in watering?
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Dec 17, 2016 12:28 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Cheryl
North of Houston TX (Zone 9a)
Region: Texas Greenhouse Plant Identifier Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Plumerias Ponds
Foliage Fan Enjoys or suffers hot summers Tropicals Garden Ideas: Master Level Garden Sages Million Pollinator Garden Challenge
Haven't used fertilizer in 3 months and it was a weak solution of Miracle Grow. The new soil I mixed in has no added fertilizer. (That's getting harder to find!) I added the extra perlite because when I dug up the dying plant the soil was hard as a rock. Would perlite add anything else to the mix besides drainage? Any chemical change?

I think I will eventually dig it up and place them in smaller pots to get a very good start over and a final chance at a good life. It gave us so many great years! Crying Maybe something is living in that pot? It is large, old, plastic, brought in from outside about 4 years ago, and could very house something creepy.
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