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Oct 25, 2016 6:18 AM CST
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Name: Joseph
Delaware USA (Zone 7a)
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I will make an attempt to grow this Ipomoea nil indoors this winter. It is my effort to create a little heaven on Earth. The seeds are 8 years old, collected from my own garden. All 4 seeds germinated in 2 days time.

I should be able to get at least one thriving plant out of the 4 seeds.

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Oct 26, 2016 7:12 PM CST
Name: Ronnie (Veronica)
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Nice Joseph, looking forward to seeing the progress.
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Oct 27, 2016 7:03 AM CST
Name: Carsten
Denmark (Zone 8b)
Joseph, great to hear examples of how long Ipomoea seeds can last.... did they spend the years in a refrigerator?

Inspired by your previous pictures of your winter-grown Ipomoea's I have started some seeds on the doorsteps of winter.

Its supposedly I. tuberosa and I. muricata - and flowers are presumably many sun-filled hours away... hope to see some before next autumn :-)
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Oct 27, 2016 7:31 AM CST
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When growing indoors what is your light source?
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Oct 27, 2016 10:29 AM CST
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Name: Joseph
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Carsten_DK said:Joseph, great to hear examples of how long Ipomoea seeds can last.... did they spend the years in a refrigerator?

Inspired by your previous pictures of your winter-grown Ipomoea's I have started some seeds on the doorsteps of winter.

Its supposedly I. tuberosa and I. muricata - and flowers are presumably many sun-filled hours away... hope to see some before next autumn :-)
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Carsten, good luck with those species, I do not recall growing them before. It will be exciting to watch them grow. Feel free to add comments and photos of your plants' progress.

I stored the seeds in plastic bags into which I placed a silica desiccant packet to keep the relative humidity low inside of the packet. I store seeds in cool room temperature, not the refrigerator.



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Oct 27, 2016 10:34 AM CST
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Name: Joseph
Delaware USA (Zone 7a)
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gardengus said:When growing indoors what is your light source?


I grow the plants in a sunny windowsill, where they have a westerly exposure.


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Oct 28, 2016 1:54 AM CST
Name: Carsten
Denmark (Zone 8b)
Thanks Joseph - hopefully there will be some progress to post about :-).

And thanks for the info on the silica.

In relation to light my location does not currently have much to offer - and it just gets worse the coming months (Denmark is at 56° N - which is north of Newfoundland) - so I have bought some readily available LED "growth" lamps.

However, the I. alba (3-4 weeks old) and Dioscorea alata (also in the the Convolvulaceae family) below have so far survived/grown solely on light from a westerly oriented window.

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Oct 28, 2016 3:30 AM CST
Name: Carsten
Denmark (Zone 8b)
Joseph, seeing all your great pictures of Ipomoea albivenia I had to give it a try.

Especially as it is also on the fragrant list from Ronnie - and you have mentioned the presence of (strong?) fragrance.

So the little plant bellow is packed with my expectations.... :-)
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Oct 28, 2016 4:14 AM CST
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Name: Joseph
Delaware USA (Zone 7a)
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The LED lights should help very much. Your plants look great, healthy and full of life. You will have fun with the Ipomoea albivenia. Enjoy!
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Oct 28, 2016 5:24 AM CST
Name: Carsten
Denmark (Zone 8b)
Thanks I tip my hat to you.
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Oct 28, 2016 6:55 AM CST
Name: Ronnie (Veronica)
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Carsten, I did some inside one year under regular fluorescent lights with great results!
I think I may get inspired to do it again Thumbs up
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Oct 28, 2016 7:17 AM CST
Name: Carsten
Denmark (Zone 8b)
Glad to hear Ronnie Smiling Please keep us informed.

When you write great results - does that include flowering in the winter time?

As I am sure I don't need to tell you - it's easy enough to get the seeds started - I am more "worried" about being able to provide condition for flower development at this time of the year. I am assuming all(?)/most Ipomoeas need short day condition AND able light to flower. These are not the conditions in the rooms in our home (I don't think I will be able to convince my wife to spend the evenings in the dark...at least not yet.. Rolling my eyes. ) - so that is presumably the biggest challenge. How did you manage that part of growing MG in winter?
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Oct 28, 2016 8:00 AM CST
Name: Ronnie (Veronica)
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Yes Carsten I had flowers. I put my lights on a timer from 7AM to 8PM

You can also use the small clip on lamps with a fluorescent bulb and clip it right near the plant. I did that also and saw flowers within 3 months. I think they sell them as heat lamps, you can get them at home Depot or Lowe's cheap.
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Oct 28, 2016 8:47 AM CST
Name: Carsten
Denmark (Zone 8b)
Ronnie, okay...great to hear you managed to get flowers. My expectation to the seeds are growing.... :-)

Was it Ipomoea nil or/and other species?

One more question in this regard: where the plants isolated from other light sources when outside your 13 hour light period?
In other words - how sensitive are the plants - based on your experience - to interruptions of the dark period? In your opinion, will a few living room lamps some meters away "interrupt" the plants dark-period and prevent flowering?
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Oct 28, 2016 9:32 AM CST
Name: Ronnie (Veronica)
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Carsten, I grew I.nil. I didn't notice any problems with other light sources. If you think about it even when outside they are never in complete darkness. Just the brightness of the moon alone is light. I have lots of lights that are on until midnight around my yard.
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Oct 28, 2016 1:18 PM CST
Name: Carsten
Denmark (Zone 8b)
Okay. Thanks Ronnie for sharing your expertise and experience Smiling I tip my hat to you.
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Oct 28, 2016 4:44 PM CST
Name: Ronnie (Veronica)
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You're welcome but certainly no expert *Blush* Just a morning glory lover Big Grin
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Oct 28, 2016 6:47 PM CST
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Name: Joseph
Delaware USA (Zone 7a)
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Cotyledons were just breaking ground today. The seed leaves should be fully opened Monday.
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Nov 1, 2016 7:46 AM CST
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Name: Joseph
Delaware USA (Zone 7a)
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All 4 sets of cotyledons have emerged! I was thinking I would have 50% seed failure. It's a joy to see them all.

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Nov 1, 2016 10:43 AM CST
Name: Ronnie (Veronica)
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That's great Joseph!
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