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Oct 25, 2016 8:45 AM CST
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Name: Gabriel/Gabe Rivera
Charlotte, NC (Zone 7b)
German imported, Michigan raised
Garden Photography Plant and/or Seed Trader Enjoys or suffers hot summers Roses Garden Procrastinator Region: North Carolina
Lilies Irises Hybridizer Hostas Dog Lover Daylilies
Some try different things. Soaking seeds then fridging them to cool, some just pot and wait for a surprise... What ever works for you, great Thumbs up I'm trying several ways, why, because I can Rolling on the floor laughing

One way I'm try is a mini greenhouse or temporary greenhouse. I was gifted some nice modern seeds. I also heard there's a 93% germination rate, the first year. I just wanted to see. I have 1500+ seeds to play with, so I'm giving it a try and hoping for success. Here's my simple and CHEAP home for the seeds.

Here's a simple step by step:

Grab a clear Sterrelite bin with a CLEAR lid. Preferably the low flat ones, like for Christmas wrapping paper. I chose a deeper one, it doesn't matter.
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Next, drill drainage holes throughout the bottom. Don't press hard or the plastic will shatter! Let the drill do it's job. Anywhere in the mold of plastic where water would sit, drill a hole!!!
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Add PAVER sand to the bottom, maybe an inch to 1.5 inches. You don't want to lose your precious nutrients from your soil. This will help save a little on that. Make sure it's wetted while applying or it'll just fall through the drainage holes.
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Now, start adding what ever POTTING MIX you want, doesn't need to be seed starter mix, but that's what I went with because I had some sitting. I add a bunch of sand and some perlite to it as well, maybe 6 inches worth of soil to the next layer
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After that, find a place to put it. I chose on top of a wide Paver rock in the garden. Receives sun and shade there. Water it good to where you see great drainage and cover up and let sit for a day.Temps were low 50's yesterday morning and you can see the moisture built up inside from the flashed pic.
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Now the fun part. I bought Wal-Mart poly placemats. For my bin I shoupd have bought three. Said $2 each, but rang up .75 at the register Hurray!
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Where the top of the soil line is, I cut the place mats the long way about 1.5 inches higher than that, with a scissor.

I next used a patching spade to cut through the soil and sand creating a line, to plate the place mats thru. Don't try to skip this, the mat is strong enough to just carve itself into place.
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Place your mat pieces how you want. I chose 11 total sections. Bigger the section the more seeds you can place. Most of mine were in the range of 15 to 25 seeds.
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Now, with DRY seeds, or you soaked ones, start counting and labeling first. Press down your soil, then take a pencil, stick, a Lazer beam, I don't care, and make your seed holes about half inch. After that's all done lay a little more soil covering all the holes evenly. Heavily mist and cover up. MAKE SURE YOUR SOIL NEVER DRIES OUT BETWEEN NOW AND EVER!!!! Germination inhibitors will kick in otherwise and reduce chances of future germination.
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Stay Tuned to next year and we'll see if we have something to work with...
Gimme it and I'll grow it!
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Oct 25, 2016 8:48 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Gabriel/Gabe Rivera
Charlotte, NC (Zone 7b)
German imported, Michigan raised
Garden Photography Plant and/or Seed Trader Enjoys or suffers hot summers Roses Garden Procrastinator Region: North Carolina
Lilies Irises Hybridizer Hostas Dog Lover Daylilies
Ps. Labels are made with oil based paint pens. No real elements to battle, so they're fade proof. I also used cheap shades my mom was going to trash as labels...my treasure I guess.
Gimme it and I'll grow it!
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Oct 25, 2016 9:23 AM CST
Name: Celia
West Valley City, Utah (Zone 7a)
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Photography Irises Plant Identifier Hummingbirder Birds
Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Cat Lover Butterflies Enjoys or suffers cold winters
Looks great! Thumbs up I can't wait to see how the experiment works.
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Oct 25, 2016 10:59 AM CST
Name: Leslie
Durham, NC (Zone 8a)
Garden Photography Cat Lover Irises Region: North Carolina Peonies Enjoys or suffers hot summers
Celebrating Gardening: 2015
The tight plastic lid won't heat up the box too much in the sun? I just wondered if a couple of air holes need to be put in the sides? I guess you will let us know!
"The chimera is a one time happenstance event where the plant has a senior moment and forgets what it is doing." - Paul Black
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Oct 25, 2016 11:09 AM CST
Name: Jan Wax
Mendocino County, N. CA (Zone 9a)
I'm a semi-retired studio potter.
Irises Hummingbirder Hellebores Organic Gardener Dog Lover Daylilies
Region: Ukraine Region: California Dahlias Garden Art Cat Lover Vegetable Grower
Good-going, Idea-Man!
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Oct 25, 2016 5:23 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Gabriel/Gabe Rivera
Charlotte, NC (Zone 7b)
German imported, Michigan raised
Garden Photography Plant and/or Seed Trader Enjoys or suffers hot summers Roses Garden Procrastinator Region: North Carolina
Lilies Irises Hybridizer Hostas Dog Lover Daylilies
Lestv said:The tight plastic lid won't heat up the box too much in the sun? I just wondered if a couple of air holes need to be put in the sides? I guess you will let us know!


Good question,really don't know the answer. The big cool is starting here, so I'm not worried as much now. The spring time I'd probably keep an eye on it. Hopefully I can take the lid completely off if there's a permanent fixture installed in time.
Gimme it and I'll grow it!
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Oct 26, 2016 3:50 AM CST
Name: Lilli
Lundby, Denmark, EU
Irises Roses Bulbs Hellebores Foliage Fan Cottage Gardener
Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Seed Starter Winter Sowing Bee Lover Dog Lover Region: Europe
Great idea! Thumbs up

For my limited space, I guess I could even stack the boxes on top of each other until the seeds start to germinate...
Of course I talk to myself; sometimes I need expert advice!
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Oct 26, 2016 3:53 AM CST
Name: Tom
Southern Wisconsin (Zone 5b)
Butterflies Vegetable Grower Keeper of Poultry Irises Keeps Horses Dog Lover
Daylilies Cat Lover Region: Wisconsin Celebrating Gardening: 2015
It will be interesting to see the results of your experiment. Smiling
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Jul 1, 2019 11:23 PM CST
Name: Evelyn
Sierra foothills, Northern CA (Zone 8a)
Irises Region: Ukraine Garden Procrastinator Bee Lover Butterflies Plant and/or Seed Trader
Region: California Cat Lover Deer Bulbs Foliage Fan Annuals
Gabe ~ This is an old thread, but what happened? Did your seeds grow well in it?
"Luck favors the prepared mind." - Thomas Jefferson
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Aug 2, 2019 1:21 PM CST
Name: Lilli
Lundby, Denmark, EU
Irises Roses Bulbs Hellebores Foliage Fan Cottage Gardener
Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Seed Starter Winter Sowing Bee Lover Dog Lover Region: Europe
I'm all ears! I'm all ears! I'm all ears!
Of course I talk to myself; sometimes I need expert advice!
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Aug 2, 2019 1:24 PM CST
Name: Evelyn
Sierra foothills, Northern CA (Zone 8a)
Irises Region: Ukraine Garden Procrastinator Bee Lover Butterflies Plant and/or Seed Trader
Region: California Cat Lover Deer Bulbs Foliage Fan Annuals
Leslie ~ Go get Gabe or give him a call. Is he doing alright, or just not talking to us anymore? Shrug!
"Luck favors the prepared mind." - Thomas Jefferson
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Dec 20, 2019 10:20 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Gabriel/Gabe Rivera
Charlotte, NC (Zone 7b)
German imported, Michigan raised
Garden Photography Plant and/or Seed Trader Enjoys or suffers hot summers Roses Garden Procrastinator Region: North Carolina
Lilies Irises Hybridizer Hostas Dog Lover Daylilies
Hey! My 2016 seedlings are still around. Finally saw the first blooms of on a handful in 2019. This batch started at my home where me and a ex shared,moved them to my mom's, then purchased a home and lined them all out finally in late 2017. Late Summer 2018 after continuous rains I lost 2/3 of the seedlings to a wave of rot even more after two hurricanes sat on my yard. I'm still producing seedlings and have more going per year. Just waiting to see what'll bloom
Gimme it and I'll grow it!
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Dec 20, 2019 11:01 PM CST
Name: Evelyn
Sierra foothills, Northern CA (Zone 8a)
Irises Region: Ukraine Garden Procrastinator Bee Lover Butterflies Plant and/or Seed Trader
Region: California Cat Lover Deer Bulbs Foliage Fan Annuals
Gabe ~ Finally...you are allllive!! That's great. Sorry about the rotten seedlings, but maybe a few will bloom this coming spring! Hurray! (Me, waving, "Hi!")
"Luck favors the prepared mind." - Thomas Jefferson
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Dec 21, 2019 5:20 AM CST
Name: Tom
Southern Wisconsin (Zone 5b)
Butterflies Vegetable Grower Keeper of Poultry Irises Keeps Horses Dog Lover
Daylilies Cat Lover Region: Wisconsin Celebrating Gardening: 2015
Good to hear from you, don't be a stranger! Smiling
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Dec 21, 2019 6:42 AM CST
Name: Arlyn
Whiteside County, Illinois (Zone 5a)
Beekeeper Region: Illinois Irises Celebrating Gardening: 2015
Glad to hear from you, Gabe Thumbs up
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Dec 21, 2019 9:45 AM CST
Name: Barbara
Northern CA (Zone 9a)
Region: California Cat Lover Dog Lover Irises Enjoys or suffers hot summers
Gabe. I've been wondering about you. Glad you checked in here.
• “Whoever said, ‘Do something right and you won’t have to do it again’ never weeded a garden.” – Anonymous
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Dec 21, 2019 5:07 PM CST
Name: Robin
Melbourne, Australia (Zone 10b)
Region: Australia Garden Photography Cat Lover Irises Seed Starter
Hi Gabe. I'm sorry you lost so many seedlings.
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Dec 21, 2019 6:51 PM CST
Name: Leslie
Durham, NC (Zone 8a)
Garden Photography Cat Lover Irises Region: North Carolina Peonies Enjoys or suffers hot summers
Celebrating Gardening: 2015
Geesh Gabe. I told you to visit the forum. 😁. Lots of people miss you ya know.
"The chimera is a one time happenstance event where the plant has a senior moment and forgets what it is doing." - Paul Black
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Dec 21, 2019 11:10 PM CST
Name: Marilyn, aka "Poly"
South San Francisco Bay Area (Zone 9b)
"The mountains are calling..."
Region: California Daylilies Irises Vegetable Grower Moon Gardener Dog Lover
Bookworm Garden Photography Birds Pollen collector Garden Procrastinator Celebrating Gardening: 2015
Great to hear from you again, Gabe! (But sorry to hear about the lost seedlings. Sad )
Evaluating an iris seedling, hopefully for rebloom
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Dec 22, 2019 12:44 AM CST
Name: daphne
san diego county, ca (Zone 10a)
Vermiculture Million Pollinator Garden Challenge
sorry to hear of your losses, gabe. but i'm happy to hear you're still hybridizing, and the experience hasn't dampened your enthusiasm. Hurray! glad to hear from you, too.

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