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Nov 30, 2016 11:59 AM CST
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Name: Arlene
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A friend took a photo of a plant in IN. I hope someone recognized what it is.
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Nov 30, 2016 12:53 PM CST
Name: Lin Vosbury
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At first I thought of Tall Verbena (Verbena bonariensis) but I don't think that's right and I don't really have a clue. It sure is pretty whatever it is and I hope someone comes along with an ID real soon because I'm very curious ... gorgeous photo!
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Nov 30, 2016 1:18 PM CST
Name: Sue
Ontario, Canada (Zone 4b)
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Given the time of year and the colour, I'm wondering about Caryopteris.
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Nov 30, 2016 3:41 PM CST
Name: Christine
North East Texas (Zone 7b)
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Or maybe scabiosa.
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Nov 30, 2016 3:55 PM CST
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Name: Arlene
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I was thinking Caryopteris but just doesn't quite look like it. Just not sure. Leaves seem similar.
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Nov 30, 2016 4:08 PM CST
Name: Danita
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Check out Pycnanthemum.
There are a few similar looking ones, like Pycnanthemum tenuifolium, Pycnanthemum virginianum, etc.
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Nov 30, 2016 4:11 PM CST
Name: Sue
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Arlene, I thought the same thing but what I wondered is whether it got zapped by cold and if that might explain the somewhat different look. I think they tend not to be hardy colder than zone 6 and sometimes things that flower late in the year don't get a chance to fully do their thing if there's an early cold snap. It might be something else, it wouldn't be hardy here so I don't actually know what it looks like when frosted/frozen. I've only grown Caryopteris in the equivalent of USDA Zone 9 Sighing!
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Nov 30, 2016 4:18 PM CST
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Name: Arlene
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To me it looks more like caryopteris nipped by frost than the Pycnanthemum-virginianum. Flower is tighter. I don't know.
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Nov 30, 2016 4:21 PM CST
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Name: Arlene
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Danita, as I look at all the other photos, I think you are right!!!
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Nov 30, 2016 4:27 PM CST
Name: Sue
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Arlene, I don't suppose your friend can go back and snip off a stem? If it is Pycnanthemum the stem should be square (mint family). Do you know if it is growing wild or cultivated?
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Nov 30, 2016 4:44 PM CST
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Name: Arlene
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I can ask him but I think he just found it at an abandoned homesite. Good idea though.
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Nov 30, 2016 5:50 PM CST
Name: Christine
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Yes, Danita, now that you say Pycnanthemum! It reminds me of Pycnanthemum tenuifolium, which is native to Indiana.
http://www.kansasnativeplants....
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Nov 30, 2016 6:17 PM CST
Name: Lin Vosbury
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Thumbs up It might be Pycnanthemum: https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/...
P. virginianum: https://www.google.com/search?...

edited to correct my spelling.
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Nov 30, 2016 6:26 PM CST
Name: Sue
Ontario, Canada (Zone 4b)
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I just found that top picture too, Lin, the bluest I've seen so far.

P. muticum according to the enlargement:

https://commons.m.wikimedia.or...
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Dec 1, 2016 9:16 AM CST
Name: Lin Vosbury
Sebastian, Florida (Zone 10a)

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I just love the deep, dark blue color of those spent seedheads and it sure does appear to be Pycnanthemum of some sort. There are a couple of Pycnanthemum found in Indiana. It may be my eyesight but the leaves on the plant in Arlene's photo appear to be quite narrow in shape, more like those of:
Narrowleaf Mountain Mint (Pycnanthemum tenuifolium) which is found in a few counties in Indiana.
http://indiana.plantatlas.org/...
http://www.wildflower.org/plan...

Pycnanthemum verticillatum is reported in Marion County, Indiana but it's leaves appear broader in shape: http://indiana.plantatlas.usf....

I sure hope an exact ID can be found because Arlene's photo would make a great addition to our database!
~ I'm an old gal who still loves playing in the dirt!
~ Playing in the dirt is my therapy ... and I'm in therapy a lot!


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Dec 1, 2016 9:30 AM CST
Name: Sue
Ontario, Canada (Zone 4b)
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It's not your eyes, Lin, or if it is then it's my eyes too Hilarious! The leaves on Arlene's plant do look narrower than the bluest Pycnanthemum in the pics, which was P. muticum.
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