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Feb 8, 2017 8:00 AM CST
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Hello all,

Newbie to garden.org and to gardening too. Started our garden patch in a small area last year and am enthusiastically planning extending the garden patch Hurray! .

I have a 5' x 5' patch in the front of the house with a few hours of sun mid-day. I wanted to add 2-3 roses in that patch so that they grow as hedge plants.

Can anyone suggest me any favorites and where to buy them? I garden in zone 7a.

Thanks you all,
Nal
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Feb 8, 2017 10:19 AM CST
Name: Porkpal
Richmond, TX (Zone 9a)
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Welcome! We will need to know where/in what zone you are gardening to help you choose.
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Feb 8, 2017 1:18 PM CST
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Thanks for the warm welcome here.

My garden patch is in central NJ area. Zone 7a.
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Feb 8, 2017 10:47 PM CST
Name: Margie
NY (Zone 7a)
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I would suggest a floribunda rose (not a hybrid tea) that is shade tolerant.
I live on Long Island and Brothers Grimm Fairy Tale does extremely well here.
Go to the plant database and type in Gebrueder Grimm.
I'll try and send photos.
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Feb 8, 2017 10:54 PM CST
Name: Margie
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Feb 8, 2017 11:05 PM CST
Name: Margie
NY (Zone 7a)
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This is where I bought mine. It looks like they still have it available. It's grafted.

https://palatineroses.com/rose...
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Feb 9, 2017 8:27 PM CST
Name: Lyn
Weaverville, California (Zone 8a)
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A rose that is often used for hedges and is said to be somewhat shade tolerant is 'Iceburg'

Rose (Rosa 'Iceberg')

The rose has certainly been around long enough to have passed the test of time ... Smiling
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Feb 9, 2017 8:52 PM CST
Name: Cindi
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You might try one of the Drift series of roses. Apricot, Coral and Pink Drift all grow wide, and bloom nonstop.
Good luck!
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Feb 10, 2017 5:06 PM CST
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MargieNY said:Thumb of 2017-02-09/MargieNY/51aae2


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What a lovely rose plant, MargieNY. Will check out the link for Fairytale Grimm roses.

Thanks for your suggestion,
Nal
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Feb 10, 2017 5:10 PM CST
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RoseBlush1 said:A rose that is often used for hedges and is said to be somewhat shade tolerant is 'Iceburg'

Rose (Rosa 'Iceberg')

The rose has certainly been around long enough to have passed the test of time ... Smiling


Thanks Roseblush1 for the suggestion. Will keep it in mind for my choices. Smiling
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Feb 10, 2017 5:11 PM CST
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CindiKS said:Welcome to the forum!
You might try one of the Drift series of roses. Apricot, Coral and Pink Drift all grow wide, and bloom nonstop.
Good luck!


Thanks CindiKS! Will check out the Drift series too!
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Feb 15, 2017 7:35 AM CST
Name: Neal Linville
Winchester, KY (Zone 6a)
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Do you have a color preference? And being in front of the house, is there a height limit?

The Fairy is a work horse of a rose and is great for landscape use and hedging. No fragrance, but excellent disease resistance and constant bloom. Mine usually stay under 4' and are nearly as wide.


Margie, your Brothers Grimm is gorgeous, and the setting and companion plants are absolute perfection! Lovey dubby
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Mar 13, 2017 5:01 PM CST
Name: Steve
Prescott, AZ (Zone 7b)
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I agree with everyone's assessment that this is not a good space for a hybrid tea rose unless you can find Silver Jubilee. I do think selections from the Fairy Tail line might be good. One of the more vigorous roses I've planted is Caramella FT and it seems to pretty resistant to black spot; but mine in its third year is nearly four feet across. If I had not failed twice with Icebergs in NJ, I'd recommend them, too.

In a space this size, I think one might consider polyanthas or even some minis as well as compact floribundas. The polyantha Marie Pavie grows between knee and waist high. And Katherina Ziemet probably tops out around knee high. Polyanthas are likely to be able to remain healthy and bloom in a little more shade than even some floribundas. Gourmet Popcorn might be fun. It could absolutely be trained as a hedge to any height between knee and waist (for a shortish person). It did well for me in NJ. I know all of these flowers are white which may sound boring... but white pops in shady spaces.

One might consider planting The Fairy in the middle (or Jeanne Lajoie) and training into a fountain shape, then planting four Gourmet Popcorns in the corners. That seems like a fun design for the space. It also uses roses that are likely to do well in it. Other minis worthy of consideration might be Cupcake and Winsome. Either hybrid musk Felicity or Ballerina, or either alba Queen of Denmark or The Alexandra Rose might also look good in the center of such a design, though any of these four would require some annual pruning to keep them in bounds. I grew Felicity, QoD and TAR when I lived in central NJ and all three were totally awesome as shrubs topping out around four or five feet in height. Ballerina made it to six or seven. Though the two albas QoD and TAR bloom just once a year, but they bore more blossoms in a season than any HT did for me in a decade there.

In brighter colors one could put Red Cascade at the center and Rise 'n' Shine at the corners.

Check out all these roses at HelpMeFind.com. All are in commerce, I believe: try Antique Rose Emporium for the minis and polyanthas and David Austin Roses for the albas. Whatever you decide, please do send photos when it's done.
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