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May 13, 2017 1:52 PM CST
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Name: Beth
Greenwood, IN (Zone 6a)
Cat Lover Region: Indiana Miniature Gardening Vegetable Grower
Hi everyone!

I'm new to gardening with iris'. A neighbor down the street was dividing their iris from the southside of their house. She said they were pact in pretty tightly when she divided them. They were on the southside of her house and she said the first 2 years after she planted them they bloomed but for the past year and half they haven't bloomed.

Does anyone know a reason why they would all stop blooming? I tried searching the forums and articles but haven't seen anything about this specific issue.

Thanks everyone for the help!
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May 13, 2017 2:20 PM CST
(Zone 9b)
Region: California Garden Ideas: Level 1
So they bloomed for 2 years after she divided them? Or they haven't bloomed since she has divided them?

I'll list some of the possibilities of non blooming irises.

When irises become too crowded, they slow down the bloom production. That's why it's recommended to divided your irises every 3-5 years. That's depending upon how close they are planted next to each other. If they grow into each other in 2 years, then divide then every 2 years.

Also, too much shade can halt bloom production in bearded irises. Those rhizomes and leaves need at least 6 hours of sun a day to produce blooms. Some will tolerate less sun, but others will not.

Was the soil amended before replanting the rhizomes? Irises are heavy feeders and will drain the soil of the nutrients they need to grow and thrive.
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May 13, 2017 2:34 PM CST
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Name: Beth
Greenwood, IN (Zone 6a)
Cat Lover Region: Indiana Miniature Gardening Vegetable Grower
Don't know if she did anything to the soil.

She planted them. They bloomed for two years. The past year and a half they didn't bloom. She just divided them today. She said they were packed pretty tightly.
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May 13, 2017 2:59 PM CST
(Zone 9b)
Region: California Garden Ideas: Level 1
That's why they didn't bloom, they were too crowded. Once they are replanted and given room to grow, they'll bloom again. Since she just dug them up, this is a good time for her to replenish the nutrients in the soil.
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May 13, 2017 4:02 PM CST
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Name: Beth
Greenwood, IN (Zone 6a)
Cat Lover Region: Indiana Miniature Gardening Vegetable Grower
Thank you for the help. I will let her know. And it will help me in the future as I got a nice bag full for my own flower bed.
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May 13, 2017 5:39 PM CST
Name: Charlotte
Salt Lake City, Utah (Zone 7a)
genealogist specializing in French
Butterflies Bulbs Heucheras Hostas Irises Region: Utah
This was started earlier but not completed.

Your answer is right in your explanation. They were too crowded. Iris need to be thinned or dug and replanted every three to four years. She must have planted them fairly close to begin with and they ran out of space faster. I plant single rhizomes 18' apart in zigzag fashion with rows 16" apart.

But when I have a clump (3) to plant then I will space the clumps two feet apart (center to center) as they will get much larger in the same amount of time. Then I will plant the individual rhizomes in a triangle, all with the rhizome , the brown part, facing me, one in front and two in back. .
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May 13, 2017 5:58 PM CST
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Name: Beth
Greenwood, IN (Zone 6a)
Cat Lover Region: Indiana Miniature Gardening Vegetable Grower
Thanks. This really helps.
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May 14, 2017 10:42 AM CST
Name: Lilli
Lundby, Denmark, EU
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Hi Beth! Welcome! to the iris forum and good luck with your new irises! Hurray!
Of course I talk to myself; sometimes I need expert advice!
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May 14, 2017 10:58 AM CST
Name: Barbara
Northern CA (Zone 9a)
Region: California Cat Lover Dog Lover Irises Enjoys or suffers hot summers
Welcome! from me too.
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May 14, 2017 11:21 AM CST
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Name: Beth
Greenwood, IN (Zone 6a)
Cat Lover Region: Indiana Miniature Gardening Vegetable Grower
Thank you. I am a little confused about the fan of the iris and which way you plant it.
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May 14, 2017 12:59 PM CST
Name: Charlotte
Salt Lake City, Utah (Zone 7a)
genealogist specializing in French
Butterflies Bulbs Heucheras Hostas Irises Region: Utah
It doesn't really matter if you are planting single rhizomes with enough space around them, but I like to plant with the fan away from me and the rhizome toward me. It matters more if you are planting clumps because the growth is mainly from the fan back and to the side. So if you are planting three and cluster them in the center of the triangle, you cut down the places for the new rhizomes to grow. I do think it is easier to plant my way. Instructions usually say to prepare the ground, (dig in compost and or fertilizer), Then make a shallow depression with a small mound in the middle. The rhizome goes on the mound and the roots in the depression and then dig deeper if needed to make room for the roots. Some growers want the rhizome above the ground and only the roots in ground, but I don't think that is necessary unless in your area the water table is very high or you have a tendency to flooding. I do have good soil and I cover the rhizome with about 1/4-1/2 inch of dirt.

Google planting iris and you should find some You-Tube videos that demonstrate planting.
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May 15, 2017 10:10 AM CST
Name: Leslie
Durham, NC (Zone 8a)
Garden Photography Cat Lover Irises Region: North Carolina Peonies Enjoys or suffers hot summers
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If you are planting three, the rule is toes in, fans out. The rhizome being the toe. You can point the toes in like spokes on a wheel. The fans, as Charlotte mentioned, are where the growth happens so they have more room along the outer edge.

Rhizomes need sun to produce the energy needed for growth. It is usually better to not cover the rhizome with any dirt. If you live in a very dry and hot climate they suggest a light covering, but in Indiana I think you will want to keep the rhizome exposed to soak up as much sun as possible since you have a shorter growing cycle.

Welcome! to the site. Hope you will stick around and show us your blooms next year!
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May 16, 2017 11:37 PM CST
Name: Marilyn
Central California (Zone 9b)
Annuals Irises Dog Lover Composter Cat Lover Region: California
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Welcome Beth! It's always nice to see new iris gardeners stop by! Welcome!

Just to clarify the planting of rhizomes: the rhizome is the part that grows under or along the ground. It has two ends, the 'toe' which is bald and looks like a toe (go figure? Hilarious! ) and the fan which is the end where the leaves grow.

The rhizome will grow in the direction of the fan/leaves. When the rhizome begins to multiply you will see the babies (little nodules known as 'increases') form on the fan end and sides.

The recommendation is to plant so the most room for growth is on the fan end. In a triangle the toes would be in the center. In a pot the toe would be against one side of the pot so the fan is toward the center of the pot (with room to grow).

How you decide to plant depends on which direction you want your plants to grow. Don't plant the fan end facing a wall or where it would get entangled with another plant.

Good luck with your new irises! And stop by anytime you have questions or just want to see a lot of great iris photos!
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