I'm having a really, really hard time with the definition of "documentation" in this thread.
In his first post, Frank tells us what he shoots (life cycle, relative position, leaves, etc.,), but doesn't tell us what makes a high-quality (better, relative to other shots) "documentation" shot. What criteria are used as differentiators?
Then, which of these criteria are unique to "documentation" shots? Or, in other words, which would you not want to incorporate into art?
That might not be a fair construct given the title of the thread (documentation first, then art). But, still, what are the criteria? What elements do we give up to document?
Or in other, other words, what is it about documenting something that makes us sacrifice one thing or another?
I don't think Frank meant to set up a dichotomy - an either/or. He was pretty careful not to. But he did create a hierarchy (first, then...).
For me, I think the conversation gets much more interesting when we talk about elements of good photography (as is happening in the thread - care is given to composition, focus, lighting, etc., in the sample shots, for example). Not exclusivity or hierarchy.
Finally...here's what I think I mean: it's probably disingenuous and lazy to excuse a nosogreat shot as "documentation". I think that's what's been eating me about the construct. Not saying anyone here is employing it as a dodge. But the construct itself sure lends itself to that.
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That was all a little harsh. I'm trying to tease apart the circles (art vs. documentation) in the Venn Diagram.
Probably the real answer to this lies in the question: what brings this photo into existence? If I'm trying to identify one seed, I really only want to look at other, single seeds on a white background. I want a standard. Something easy for the eye to process and differentiate. Same with leaves, and even flowers. Even arrowheads or animal tracks. That's probably pure "documentation".
The thing that brings those shots is an almost iconograpic representation of it (and its elements)...so that one might identify or differentiate one thing from another. But, in order to use such a shot to differentiate, it must have some pretty specific elements: focus, light, even composition, etc.
So it seems to me that when one truly "documents", one intentionally leaves out other stuff...for example, when we're looking at a heart, in situ, we're not going to be paying much attention to the person's hairstyle. We just won't see it. It won't be part of the shot.
So for documentation, exquisite detail and what's not there might be the two values in question. (If I'm looking at seed morphology, I'm not interested in seeing the roots...and I'm not interested in magical depth of focus across the seedhead.)
I'm still not sure what I think of this, absent a definition of "documentation" for this thread. Here's a shot I took today.
Is it "documentation" or "art" (or neither)? Why? What elements would you identify to support either case?
(upon rereading this, it smacks as a little prickly - it's not my intent and I probably didn't do all that well that way - as you can see, I'm trying to figure this out and wandering all over the place as I do)