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Jul 31, 2017 8:54 AM CST
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E TX (Zone 8a)
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
I got a couple of fans. I literally blinked and I have a 3x3' patch that is growing into my fancy hybrids. Is there a way to id the fulva by foliage? Since it's grown into other plants, i can't tell which is which. Pls tell me I don't have to take every DL out.
I was planning to take the fulva out when in bloom but since it was so crowded, fulva didn't produce flowers.
I was warned about how problematic fulva could be but i did not listen. Tell me there is a painless solution to this mess.
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Jul 31, 2017 9:05 AM CST
Name: Sue
Ontario, Canada (Zone 4b)
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If it didn't produce flowers then you could try taking out every plant that is flowerless. The fulvas tend to have paler foliage but that's the only way I can think of to differentiate. Even if you dig everything up, if some rhizomes or parts of rhizomes still remain in the soil then they'll come right back. It may just be better to take out your fancy hybrids to a new bed, and leave that bed to the fulva (or go at it with herbicide after you've taken the others out).
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Jul 31, 2017 10:12 AM CST
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E TX (Zone 8a)
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
Thank you. So herbicide will permanently kill? Good to know. After this fiasco, i will be very vocal about telling others not to plant H fulva with others.
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Jul 31, 2017 10:25 AM CST
Name: Larry
Enterprise, Al. 36330 (Zone 8b)
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Don't panic, just dig up all the ones you know are ditch lilies. Maybe just move the named varieties that are bordering the ditch lilies and then over the next couple of years you should be able to clear them all out. I panicked one day when I realized what was happening and rushed to get the shovel, I could not dig fast enough. It turned out ok, and was really not as bad as all the horror stories I had read.
Edited: I did not have to use herbicides.
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Jul 31, 2017 11:07 AM CST
(Zone 6a)
Good to see you Vossner. I had the same experience many years ago. I did the same as Larry, and dug out the fulva. It took several years before the pop ups ended. It's a common mistake, when the addiction hits, don't feel bad. Sue's herbicide tip, might shorten the pop up period. Good Luck!

How is Gizmo doing? I'd love to see him all grown up. He was a adorable, and mischievous kitten, the last time we spoke, on the other site.
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Jul 31, 2017 11:42 AM CST
Name: Sue
Ontario, Canada (Zone 4b)
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vossner said:Thank you. So herbicide will permanently kill? Good to know. After this fiasco, i will be very vocal about telling others not to plant H fulva with others.


It may take more than one application of herbicide, and you'd need to find something that works on Hemerocallis fulva. Maybe someone can recommend something from experience, it's not something I have tried to do. I have mine in a spot far away from the other daylilies so they can do their thing as much as they want.
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Jul 31, 2017 2:26 PM CST
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E TX (Zone 8a)
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
Hello Taylor, impressive memory! Kozmo has turned out to be the most adorable and agreeable kitty. He gets along excellently with the two dogs and is not shy at all. He'll walk up to anybody with the "who are you and state your biz" rub.
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Jul 31, 2017 2:34 PM CST
Athens, Ohio (Zone 6a)
Fulva spreads by runners, so that should help in identification.
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Jul 31, 2017 3:01 PM CST
Name: Sue
Ontario, Canada (Zone 4b)
Annuals Native Plants and Wildflowers Keeps Horses Dog Lover Daylilies Region: Canadian
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mantisOH said:Fulva spreads by runners, so that should help in identification.


Since the "runners" are actually rhizomes, though, so are below the soil surface you'd have to dig the plants up before you'd find out that they had them.
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Jul 31, 2017 4:01 PM CST
Name: Larry
Enterprise, Al. 36330 (Zone 8b)
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I think what she was saying was you could follow the "trail" so to speak. The runners would lead to another plant.
I am not sure they would all be connected to runners, but they might?
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Jul 31, 2017 9:33 PM CST
(Zone 6a)
Kizmo has grown up to be a gorgeous cat. Thank You! For sharing his picture, It's great seeing Kizmo all grown up. I remember him playing in your gardens, and being adorable. Lovey dubby My memory is great when it comes to my son, or animals, and daylilies. Hilarious! Everything else, I need written reminders, or I forget.
I got Kizmo's name wrong, there's a sample, of my mixed memory abilities. *Blush*

The first time you dig Fulva, the roots should all be attached by runners, from my experience. But, if ANY small fraction of a piece is left behind, new fans will develop, it might take a year, in this case you may not find long runners, if dug when the new fan first appears.
I can't speak about herbicide usage, since I don't use any in my gardens. I use a hori hori knife, and dig weeds. Due to the wildlife in my gardens, I avoid chemical usage. I don't think bad of those who do, we all have our own ways of doing things, as long you enjoy yourself, your golden.
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Aug 1, 2017 4:51 AM CST
Name: Vickie
southern Indiana (Zone 6b)
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It took me a few years to get all of the fulva out of my daylily bed, but I haven't seen any new ones for a couple of years now. I did not use an herbicide, just monitored it very closely. I dug a few cultivars that I had in the area so I could keep a close watch on the area to make sure nothing came up.

I don't remember, but if I were moving them now, I would separate and wash each fan very well to make sure that no pieces of the fulva were hanging on the cultivar roots.
May all your weeds be wildflowers. ~Author Unknown
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Aug 1, 2017 8:46 AM CST
Name: Nancy
Bowling Green Kentucky (Zone 6b)
I dug out the fulva from a bed a few years ago & still come across one now & again. Happened this year after not seeing any last year. I cut it back & brushed a bit of weed killer on it. I hope I'll eventually get it all, but seems to be mostly gone now.

Kozmo needs my meet my Mocha, & Saffron too of course.




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Aug 1, 2017 12:00 PM CST
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E TX (Zone 8a)
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
Maybe they're related. kozmo was a rescue Smiling
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