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Sep 5, 2017 11:38 AM CST
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Name: Christie
Central Ohio 43016 (Zone 6a)
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Sep 5, 2017 11:47 AM CST
Name: Kurt
Woodbridge , Va (Zone 7a)
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pretty sure it is some variety of Dogwood
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Sep 5, 2017 2:35 PM CST
Name: Sue
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Ilex verticillata?

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Sep 5, 2017 3:41 PM CST
Name: Kurt
Woodbridge , Va (Zone 7a)
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I really think it is a dogwood , veined dry rippled leaves and red berries
perhaps some variety of -
Cornelian Cherry (Cornus mas)

A pint can't hold a quart , If it is holding a pint it is doing the best that it can.
and it is written ,
if the evil spirit arms the tiger with claws , brahman provided wings for the dove.
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Sep 5, 2017 5:17 PM CST
Name: greene
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I'm still not seeing any kind of Dogwood, but it is very difficult to make a positive ID from a single, unclear photo. Please, can you add some better photos? Thank you.
Sunset Zone 28, AHS Heat Zone 9, USDA zone 8b~"Leaf of Faith"
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Sep 5, 2017 5:36 PM CST
Name: Kurt
Woodbridge , Va (Zone 7a)
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dogwood leaves

A pint can't hold a quart , If it is holding a pint it is doing the best that it can.
and it is written ,
if the evil spirit arms the tiger with claws , brahman provided wings for the dove.
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Sep 5, 2017 5:43 PM CST
Name: Sue
Ontario, Canada (Zone 4b)
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Cornus kousa fruits:



If it was a dogwood the leaves would be opposite (with one exception), but I can't really tell from the picture. I'm leaning towards their not being opposite which would rule out dogwood but hard to be sure.
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Sep 5, 2017 5:58 PM CST
Name: Kurt
Woodbridge , Va (Zone 7a)
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I never said it was Cornus kousa , just giving a similar looking Dogwood LEAF example to compare to the original pic.

I have 2 kinds of dogwoods I see everyday and I think it is a dogwood
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and it is written ,
if the evil spirit arms the tiger with claws , brahman provided wings for the dove.
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Sep 5, 2017 6:05 PM CST
Name: greene
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Since the fruit in the photo looks nothing like any dogwood fruit (to my eyes), I will hold off trying to identify this one until cwhitt supplies more photos. I tip my hat to you.
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Sep 5, 2017 8:09 PM CST
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Lonicera maackii
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Sep 5, 2017 9:01 PM CST
Name: John
Scott County, KY (Zone 5b)
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Absolutely no question that this plant is the invasive exotic species Lonicera maackii - Amur Honeysuckle.

Can't be Winterberry Holly (Ilex verticillata) as that plant has alternate arrangement of leaves, where this plant is clearly opposite in arrangement of simple leaves.

Dogwood (with primarily opposite arrangement of simple leaves) is generally a good guess, but the buds shown are definitely not a match, and the location of the fruit (axially versus terminally) don't match at all.

HoneysuckleHoneysuckleHoneysuckle - which those of us that garden in the eastern US see all the time.

DieDieDieDieDieDieDieDieDieDieDieDieDieDieDieDieDieDie...
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John has spoken.
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Sep 5, 2017 9:48 PM CST
Name: Deb
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Am I just not 'getting' the last sentence? What does that mean? DieDieDie...

I didn't think dogwood either, but didn't have the facts to back it up, just a lot of dogwoods in my area, both native and cultivated.
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Sep 6, 2017 5:42 AM CST
Name: Sue
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I think the DieDieDie is because it is an invasive alien. I'd wondered about Lonicera but the opposite leaf arrangement wasn't as clear to me in the picture as it is to John. I notice there are some smaller darker coloured berries in some places in the picture, not sure if they are on the same plant.
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Sep 6, 2017 7:11 AM CST
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It is my understanding that all loniceras have hollow stems, so a simply snap test might be useful.
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Sep 6, 2017 9:19 AM CST
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Name: Christie
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More photos. If I remember right, it had white flowers on it in spring.
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Sep 6, 2017 10:02 AM CST
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Name: Christie
Central Ohio 43016 (Zone 6a)
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Also, the berries stay on during the winter --
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Sep 7, 2017 9:22 PM CST
Name: John
Scott County, KY (Zone 5b)
You can't have too many viburnums..
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I have an extreme dislike for this species. I apologize forthwith to all I have offended with that sentiment. Yes, "DieDieDie" is my recommendation for all these invasive exotic species.

Additional photos continue to confirm that this is none other than Amur Honeysuckle - Lonicera maackii.
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Sep 9, 2017 3:15 PM CST
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Name: Christie
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@ViburnumValley - you just said the magic word! Honeysuckle! When you said that I suddenly remembered honeysuckle blooms last spring. And, it does indeed appear to be invasive - they are growing all along our parking. Hurray! I tip my hat to you. Thank You!
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Sep 10, 2017 8:36 AM CST
Name: John
Scott County, KY (Zone 5b)
You can't have too many viburnums..
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You are quite welcome - and islander mentioned it first above.

As you make choices going forward with your landscape/garden, you can consider all the positive species mentioned above - and then some. Suburban Columbus OH is a great horticultural hotbed. Take a visit to Franklin Park and some of the other fabulous new parks being established along the Scioto River to see the numerous ornamental plants available and successful.

I'd say you could grow just about any of the shrubby and tree form Dogwood (Cornus) species, as well as Winterberry Holly (Ilex verticillata), and many many species of Viburnum (Viburnum sp.).

Flowers, fragrance, fruit, form, fall color - yes, you can have it all...

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