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Feb 10, 2018 1:14 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Fritz
Germany South (Zone 7b)
Garden Photography Region: Europe Hybridizer Irises Peonies
I'm not a professional breeder, I let work the Bees Smiling Smiling
In the follow I will show, how variable the seedlings are across from the mother plant.
The mother plant is
Stockholm, SDB, 1972, Bee Warburton
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The following seedlings are from two seed pods:
1 ..|.. 2 ..|.. 3
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4 ..|.. 5 ..|.. 6
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7 ..|.. 8 ..|.. 9
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10 ..|.. 11 ..|.. 12
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13 ..|.. 14 ..|.. 15
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Feb 10, 2018 1:20 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Fritz
Germany South (Zone 7b)
Garden Photography Region: Europe Hybridizer Irises Peonies
Little Shadow, SDB, 1953, Geddes Douglas
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seedlings:
16 ..|.. 17 ..|.. 18
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19 ..|.. 20 ..|.. 21
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22 ..|.. 23 ..|.. 24
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25
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Feb 10, 2018 1:27 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Fritz
Germany South (Zone 7b)
Garden Photography Region: Europe Hybridizer Irises Peonies
Red Heart, SDB, 1967, Alta Brown
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seedlings: (3 seed pots)
26 ..|.. 27 ..|.. 28
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29 ..|.. 30 ..|.. 31
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32 ..|.. 33 ..|.. 34
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35 ..|.. 36 ..|.. 37
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38 ..|.. 39 ..|.. 40
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41 ..|.. 42 ..|.. 43
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44 ..|.. 45 ..|.. 46
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47 ..|.. 48 ..|.. 49
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50 ..|.. 51
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Feb 10, 2018 1:56 AM CST
Name: Debra
Garland, TX (NE Dallas suburb) (Zone 8a)
Rescue dogs: Angels with paws needi
Dragonflies Dog Lover Bookworm I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Photography Bee Lover
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Those are some gorgeous seedlings. Fun to see the differences even coming from the same parents. Smiling
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Feb 10, 2018 2:36 AM CST
Name: Lilli
Lundby, Denmark, EU
Irises Roses Bulbs Hellebores Foliage Fan Cottage Gardener
Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Seed Starter Winter Sowing Bee Lover Dog Lover Region: Europe
I agree they are gorgeous and interesting. Thank you for sharing! I tip my hat to you.

I especially like seedling number 5 and 10 from the Little Shadow cross and number 8 and 9 from the Red Heart cross! Hurray!
Of course I talk to myself; sometimes I need expert advice!
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Feb 10, 2018 4:58 AM CST
Name: Tom
Southern Wisconsin (Zone 5b)
Butterflies Vegetable Grower Keeper of Poultry Irises Keeps Horses Dog Lover
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Welcome! to the iris forum, nice to see your seedlings, they sure are variable aren't they.
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Feb 10, 2018 8:23 AM CST
Name: Jerry
New Jersey (Zone 6a)
Thank you very much for posting your seedlings. I am always interested in seeing the variation in seed pods. I am amazed at how greatly the resulting seedlings in a single pod can vary. They are proof of how powerfully the inherited genes of even distant parents can be.
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Feb 10, 2018 9:18 AM CST
Name: Dirt
(Zone 5b)
Region: Utah Bee Lover Garden Photography Photo Contest Winner: 2014 Photo Contest Winner: 2015 Photo Contest Winner: 2016
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Hurray!
That is so cool! Amazing and nice to see what your bees can bring out Smiling
gives me hope for some of my bee pods!
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Feb 10, 2018 9:25 AM CST
Name: Barbara
Northern CA (Zone 9a)
Region: California Cat Lover Dog Lover Irises Enjoys or suffers hot summers
Edit to fix spelling.
Amazing! I never knew they would vary that much. I tip my hat to you. I tip my hat to you. I tip my hat to you.
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Feb 10, 2018 12:35 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Fritz
Germany South (Zone 7b)
Garden Photography Region: Europe Hybridizer Irises Peonies
One or other iris is better as the parents plant. But unfortunately most are for the compost. sadly Crying
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Feb 10, 2018 2:39 PM CST
Name: Debra
Garland, TX (NE Dallas suburb) (Zone 8a)
Rescue dogs: Angels with paws needi
Dragonflies Dog Lover Bookworm I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Photography Bee Lover
Plays in the sandbox Butterflies Region: Texas Garden Sages I sent a postcard to Randy! Charter ATP Member
Hybridizing requires an element of ruthlessness in choosing what to keep. Smiling
It’s okay to not know all the answers.
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Feb 10, 2018 2:53 PM CST
Name: Dnd
SE Michigan (Zone 6a)
Daylilies Dog Lover Houseplants Organic Gardener I helped beta test the first seed swap Celebrating Gardening: 2015
Garden Ideas: Level 2
IrisP, thank you for sharing those wonderful pictures! I absolutely love seeing how the genetics play out, especially when there are a bunch of surprises. Those pictures demonstrate that irises have more than a single set of alleles responsible for color, and they don't always play predictably!
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Feb 10, 2018 2:59 PM CST
Name: Robin
Melbourne, Australia (Zone 10b)
Region: Australia Garden Photography Cat Lover Irises Seed Starter
IrisP said:
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Thank You! I found that interesting as I haven't had enough of my seedlings bloom to see how much they vary. These 2 are my favourites.
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Feb 10, 2018 11:13 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Fritz
Germany South (Zone 7b)
Garden Photography Region: Europe Hybridizer Irises Peonies
lovemyhouse said:Hybridizing requires an element of ruthlessness in choosing what to keep. Smiling


tell this to my wife Rolling my eyes. Rolling my eyes. Rolling my eyes.
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Feb 11, 2018 2:00 AM CST
Name: Lilli
Lundby, Denmark, EU
Irises Roses Bulbs Hellebores Foliage Fan Cottage Gardener
Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Seed Starter Winter Sowing Bee Lover Dog Lover Region: Europe
Hilarious!

I understand her completely! Big Grin
Of course I talk to myself; sometimes I need expert advice!
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Feb 11, 2018 9:05 AM CST
Name: Dnd
SE Michigan (Zone 6a)
Daylilies Dog Lover Houseplants Organic Gardener I helped beta test the first seed swap Celebrating Gardening: 2015
Garden Ideas: Level 2
I know you said that you were planning to compost all of the above flowers, but I just wanted to let you know that #3, 6, 25, 44, and 45 all looked like winners to me! Nearly all of the pictures were pretty, but the pictures for those particular irises made them look like keepers. Pictures can deceive though, I suppose. Smiling
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Feb 11, 2018 10:26 AM CST
Name: Susan
Keenesburg, Colorado (Zone 5a)
Isn't it amazing work that bees do for nature? This represents a lot of time and effort on your part as well. I find these seedlings fascinating!

I especially like #'s 47, 35, 27(yellow with purple /red blush), 11 or 13 ( dark purple with the blue blaze/orange hafts) . I'd be happy to pay you for shipment or what would you like? if you plan to toss them.

Here's some of my first attempt to grow out bee pods. They took 2 years to flower. They are an unknown cross with I Pallida. I just don't have the heart to toss them.

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Feb 11, 2018 11:45 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Fritz
Germany South (Zone 7b)
Garden Photography Region: Europe Hybridizer Irises Peonies
Many thanks for your feedbacks.

It's realy so that I plan to keep for registration only 5 or 6 of the showed iris.

#4 - the best form
#18 - an unusually color combination
#25 - a radiant appearance
#32 - an unusually color combination
#36 - one of the best grower I have in the Brennet Iris Garden

It is one side, to look good on a photo, but to registrate an iris and bring it into the commerce, it must have more qualities:
- a good branching
- a good growing
- a balanced proportion of the flower to the height of the plant
- modern SDB's are have very flat petals
- I think it does not make sense to registrate an iris, when you can find in commerce 350 'yellow self' or 240 'white self' - and so on

One of my favorite SDB seedlings I have, got only one flower per stalk 'cry
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Feb 11, 2018 12:31 PM CST
Name: Dirt
(Zone 5b)
Region: Utah Bee Lover Garden Photography Photo Contest Winner: 2014 Photo Contest Winner: 2015 Photo Contest Winner: 2016
Photo Contest Winner 2018 Photo Contest Winner 2019 Photo Contest Winner 2020 Photo Contest Winner 2021 Photo Contest Winner 2022 Photo Contest Winner 2023
Thanks for numbering them Thumbs up

#45 is my favorite

lovemyhouse said:Hybridizing requires an element of ruthlessness in choosing what to keep. Smiling


not just hybridizing Hilarious! excessive ordering to try out new-to-me ones requires an element of ruthlessness to make room too--
if I had unlimited space...and a garden crew...
but, if my bees create some real cuties, I'll keep 'em... somewhere Rolling my eyes.
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Feb 11, 2018 12:39 PM CST
Name: Debra
Garland, TX (NE Dallas suburb) (Zone 8a)
Rescue dogs: Angels with paws needi
Dragonflies Dog Lover Bookworm I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Photography Bee Lover
Plays in the sandbox Butterflies Region: Texas Garden Sages I sent a postcard to Randy! Charter ATP Member
Hilarious! Dirt. Yeah, and that element is more difficult to maintain when the Iris Forum has so many ruthless enablers. Big Grin
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