Here's a link to a post by Kim Rupert about additional disclosure of RRD in the growing fields very much worth reading:

https://www.gardenweb.com/disc...

Oh, dandy!

Great.

It's heartbreaking, really.

The earlier news was bad enough -- but now, knowing that it's been a known problem there for FOUR YEARS . . . that's heartbreaking, and . . . . it makes me truly angry. Will this destroy Weeks? Very likely. Do I care? Well, I hope it DOES destroy them.

This is not the old Weeks that we knew for years, and trusted. This is a disgrace to the name.

@jerijen,Jeri, I, too, am incredibly angry. Totally livid.

It is not only going to destroy Weeks Roses, but also J & P roses and Star Roses. They ALL have growing fields in Wasco and they ALL have been selling roses that may or may not be infected.

They ALL have been providing budwood to other growers and nurseries, who may or may not have infected plants.

AND they never disclosed that information to the public.

Then think of all of the nurseries that have been selling roses. They were innocent customers, too.

I have three roses I added to my garden in 2016. When I bought those roses, there was no disclosure about the possibility of them being infected with RRD. In fact, the initial reports was that RRD was found in the growing fields in 2017.

This whole think just makes me sick.

I think I was lucky in that I got clean roses. Enough time has passed that even using the information that symptoms may not show up for about 2 years that I got from another article, I think I am passed that window ...

This sucks! A part of me is relieved that I never purchased from J&P and Weeks. And I suspect Heirloom Roses (in Oregon) and David Austin (in Texas) do business with Weeks. I believe Regan nursery (from where I order roses for my next bare root planting season) grow their own roses commercially. Still, I can't help but worry. Thanks for sharing Lyn!

Shyam ...

It doesn't matter if Regan grows their own roses. If they received budwood from an infected plant from Weeks, Star or J & P, you could end up with an infected plant in your own garden.

I wish I knew more about the incubation period - 3 years seems excessive, at least in my cold zone. 3 months you can keep things in a quarantine if you want a new introduction (or just have suspicions about a vendor's source) but 3 years? 3 months is pushing it my zone - I'd be looking at planting in the height of summer or risking a fall planting.

And Regan's has some I was looking forward to getting for next year.

"They ALL have been providing budwood to other growers and nurseries, who may or may not have infected plants.
AND they never disclosed that information to the public."


It is simply unconscionable. I suspect poor old Ollie Weeks is spinning in his grave.

I actually DON'T think that Reagans grows their own . . . but even if they do -- as Lyn says -- if the budwood is infected, it may take a while, but those plants are doomed.

I don't think I could want ANY rose badly enough to risk the destruction of the garden I have, or will have in the future. It's not worth it.

@jerijen,
On happier day, would like to here more about your rose garden.

Tisha

I know it feels like "anything for a buck." I am glad that I have not ordered anything from a major nursery for the past several years. I did just rescue a rose (mini and therefore own root) from Sprouts that was a leftover from Mother's Day (and it is doing quite well). My soon to arrive roses will be from Burling and own root.

The latest I have read on RRD is that it is spread from a mite and it loves Multiflora rootstock (my term and not the terms of the scientists that wrote the article). http://ucanr.edu/blogs/NCPNros...

@Mustbnuts

You need to get up to date ...

You can do a search of the NGA Rose Forum for posts about rose rosette disease by putting "rose rosette disease" in the search field and search this forum. There are a lot of links in those posts that will give you better information.

Tisha -- My garden has morphed with the climate. Once, when water was plentiful, it was roses and roses and roses of all types and sizes. Our weather was foggy through much of the summer season. Drought has changed how we garden and what we grow.

NOW we grow for he most part roses that were collected in old cemeteries and deserted gardens, and have thus demonstrated their ability to survive tough times. They are companioned by salvias, and penstemons and many plumerias.

The grass between them greens up in our increasingly-meager winter rains, and browns off when the heat hits. What water we can afford goes to the roses.

This is the garden that was:




This is the garden that is . . .

Both beautiful!

RoseBlush1 said:@Mustbnuts

You need to get up to date ...

You can do a search of the NGA Rose Forum for posts about rose rosette disease by putting "rose rosette disease" in the search field and search this forum. There are a lot of links in those posts that will give you better information.

I don't know but an article printed in May 2018 seems pretty up to date to me. I searched gardenweb.org for rrd and the most recent article is from last year.

Oh, I was suggesting that you search the NGA posts ....

Here's a couple of links for you:

https://roserosette.org/resour...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

Ann Peck, who is not a scientist, was the first to put up a web-book about RRD.

http://www.rosegeeks.com/

Lots of good info there. She was the first I know of who published a "book" that said RRD can and will attack any rose that has been infected by the mite which is the vector of RRD.

Research has proven her to be correct in reporting that ALL roses are vulnerable to infection not just multiflora or roses with multiflora in their lineage.

RRD has not been a serious problem west of the Rockies for decades, but now that it is in the growing fields and they are selling roses grown in those fields all over the US and sending budwood which may or may not be infected with RRD to other countries, it is a huge problem.

Lyn, unfortunately, RRD is a hidden deadly disease that has a long incubation period. From what I've read up to now, it can very easily spread anywhere in the world. I went carefully through the links you provided and also that by @Mustbnuts. Up to what I researched the disease knowledge has quite a few blind spots . Is the disease solely concentrated in the specific mite?. Would occasional aphids or spider mites that suck up plant juices also act as vectors, once the level of viral dissemination has reached its peak inside the host plant? Although it would seem that wild stands of R.multiflora could be acting as reservoirs east of the Mississipi , the real threat comes from the way rose growing is organized. Because the ELISA tests only show those individuals that are actually infected, it can't certify that the rest aren't so: any certification saying that it gave negative is not a health certificate. These other vast numbers of potential host plants could be harboring disease unkowingly by honest growers, up to (apparently) three years before it could be considered safe. In other words it may mean sending the full complete growing fields into quarantine measures. This makes me wonder how are large scale buisinesses going to cope with such a perspective. Hard times...
Meanwhile, home gardeners like us should stay on the cautious side, when it comes to including new bushes into our gardens. It is much easier to erradicate a few diseased plants in one's garden, than that from a growing field. It is also easier to organize a private local watch out system. I greatly value Ann Peck's article in that sense. This thread I find it very relevant also. Thank you @roseblush1 Lyn for bringing it to our attention.
Arturo

"Meanwhile, home gardeners like us should stay on the cautious side, when it comes to including new bushes into our gardens."


*** I don't think we have had in the past a situation where infected material (or material with a high degree of probability of infection) has actually been shipped out around the country.

That elevates the whole thing, and I would tell anyone who asked me that this is not a good time to bring new commercially-grown roses into your garden.

I would agree with you Jeri (as I bring two new roses into my garden from Burling). I trust Burling. I am hoping to start breeding my own roses with what I have and see what becomes of it. Not that I have space for any new roses.

Decided that if RRD wipes out my roses (I hope not as I have a more than a couple you can't get anywhere), I will start to grow some of those mini crape myrtles. The flowers last a long time and they can take heat and drought. Colors are beautiful as well.

I'm praying vigorously that my relative isolation will protect us for a few years at least.

When/if it shows up here, affected roses will be removed, and replaced with Plumerias.

The last rose I bought came from Burling -- 'Etoile de Hollande'. I don't contemplate adding any more.