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Nov 17, 2018 12:50 AM CST
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Hi all, I was just wondering if anyone knows if this is used to kill bees, and what you call it/where to get it?. It looks like it works, i came across it on Google images but the site was down. Thanks in advance for any tips/suggestions.
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Nov 17, 2018 1:52 AM CST
Name: tfc
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Oh, my. I'm sorry I clicked on your picture. That's very sad.

May I ask why you would want to kill bees?
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Nov 17, 2018 2:01 AM CST
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Why on earth would anyone want to kill bees?!
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Nov 17, 2018 4:49 AM CST
Name: Big Bill
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I simply will not help anyone trying to kill bees.
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Nov 17, 2018 5:16 AM CST
Name: Danita
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The photo shows yellow jackets in a yellow jacket trap, not bees. Please don't kill bees. If honey bees are in a problematic place, you can call local beekeepers and they will often remove and rehouse them.
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Nov 17, 2018 5:34 AM CST
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Yellow jackets? Man, your eyes are better then mine. Although they are hornets or wasps, I forget which, they are tremendous late summer/fall pollinators. They just happen to be predators.
It seems to me that we should learn to live with them rather then trapping and killing them.
They are so easy to avoid!
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Nov 17, 2018 6:33 AM CST
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Shame on anyone that messes with Mother Nature, if you don't like any type of bee/hornets whatever, move what attracts them
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Nov 17, 2018 6:44 AM CST
Name: Sue
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Yellow jackets are a pain when eating outdoors, and the European ones are alien to North America, I've seen traps like this near outdoor restaurant patios. Look up RESCUE W.H.Y yellow jacket trap on Google. From what I see the version sold in western Canada is a different version from eastern Canada. The western Canada one looks different from the one in your picture, which looks like the eastern version. Perhaps the attractant is different. Canadian Tire, Walmart etc. list them. If it really is bees you want to trap then I don't think you'll find anything like this because most people would not want to.

According to this article the yellow jackets that come out towards fall in Vancouver (where the OP is) are the kind that are aggressive and sting and are not pollinators:

http://www.vancouversun.com/he...
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Nov 17, 2018 6:45 AM CST
Name: Gina
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Very sad. There are many different types of wasps. Almost none will attack a human (here where I am anyway, other places may have different ones that might) unless said human attacks or in some way threatens their nest. The exception here are hornets, which build nests in the ground and have been known to set upon an unwary human who gets too close to the hole leading to their underground home. And the European honeybee and bumble bee are severely stressed due to the overuse of commercial and homeowner pesticide use. You probably also have native bees and flies that resemble wasps/bees, we have many such insects here in Florida, several with beautiful iridescent green and blue exoskeletons, that help the European honeybee in their duties as pollinators. Our ecosystem is so stressed as it is....if you want to keep your nice flower and vegetable garden, you need all of these insects on your team. Most of our native bees do not even sting! Please consider being proactive for nature instead of immediately desiring to eradicate something that will probably not harm you. If you want to keep eating fruits, vegetables and the plant material, you should be helping to foster all of these insects, not kill them. Just my opinion.
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Nov 17, 2018 7:18 AM CST
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Yellow jackets are extremely aggressive late in the season gathering insects to feed young wasps in the nest.
They can be very nasty.
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Nov 17, 2018 12:02 PM CST
Name: Daisy I
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Every fall, we have an invasion of wasps called "meat bees". Their sting is incredibly painful and on top of that, they will rip a hunk out of you to take home for dinner. You can't get away from them as they are in massive swarms in the hills around us and all the way to Lake Tahoe. When I have a couple hundred bees trying to aggressively eat me, I don't care how many I take down first.

Our "traps" (in normal years when the meat bees are in normal numbers) we make traps with raw bacon, a plastic zip lock bag and soapy water. The bees also seem to like orange juice.

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Nov 17, 2018 1:45 PM CST
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Wow our flying insects here are very tame compared to yours Daisyl!
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Nov 17, 2018 1:51 PM CST
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DaisyI said:Every fall, we have an invasion of wasps called "meat bees". Their sting is incredibly painful and on top of that, they will rip a hunk out of you to take home for dinner. You can't get away from them as they are in massive swarms in the hills around us and all the way to Lake Tahoe. When I have a couple hundred bees trying to aggressively eat me, I don't care how many I take down first.

Our "traps" (in normal years when the meat bees are in normal numbers) we make traps with raw bacon, a plastic zip lock bag and soapy water. The bees also seem to like orange juice.



Thanks for sharing, and yes, they're horrible. No offense to everyone else in this thread that are against killing these bees, but it's not the kind of insect I'd like sit on my hand so I can pet it like a butterfly. The wasps got into our attic and made nests up there and they would fly into our living room and annoy us. I bought a electric flyswatter to kill most of them. It was just so annoying. Luckily, I moved out of my old house so someone else has to deal with them now :). My dad never believed me that they were up there. Anyways, again, sorry im sharing this here, if the moderator wants to delete this thread they can if it's against the forum rules.
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Nov 17, 2018 2:29 PM CST
Name: Daisy I
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Gina1960 said:Wow our flying insects here are very tame compared to yours Daisyl!


I can send you a box next September. Rolling on the floor laughing

Ilovebugsnot, don't worry. No one will kick you off the forum on your first day. Welcome!
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Nov 17, 2018 2:59 PM CST
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Of course not. I hate slugs and I'd kill them in a heartbeat!!!
I could care less that box turtles like to eat them darn things. But let me say that I have run into too many people while I was working in a very public orientated preserve and the reaction that got to me the most was, "if they are afraid of something or they don't like something, they needed to kill it!"
I am not saying that you are like that but it just rubbed me the wrong way and I apologize if I offended anyone,
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Nov 17, 2018 3:30 PM CST
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@ilovebugsnot - the insects caught in the trap in your picture are yellow jackets (aka wasps in some regions) not bees. Is that what you are trying to kill or were you just wondering if the same trap would get bees as well?
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Nov 17, 2018 4:07 PM CST
Name: tfc
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@ilovebugsnot — worry not. You are more than welcome to post questions, answers, opinions and what not. We're a chatty group and can keep going at times.

Like Big Bill, I have no qualms about killing slugs. Also have no qualms about killing mosquitoes.

So anyway, please don't think your post should be deleted. You started a conversation that many of us are interested in and/or opinionated about. No rules broken.

An electric flyswatter, eh?
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Nov 17, 2018 4:34 PM CST
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A hardware store should have something similar in the pest control aisle. Yes, we've had them in the house and they are dangerous. I'm not sure of what hardware stores are in Vancouver, but maybe there's also a Walmart?
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Nov 17, 2018 4:58 PM CST
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When I see people who panic because there are wasps, or even bees around, I usually think if they get stung they deserve it.
If some one is allergic to their bites I can understand there worry but to have sh-- fit and start flapping their arms, just makes it more likely they will get stung.
I have had such paranoid people tell me often there is a bee, with there not knowing too often whether it is a bee or wasp, by your, on your blah, blah, blah.
I tell them , yep, your are right and keep on doing what ever I am doing, often saying I don't bother them , they don't bother me, and that includes wasps on my pop can , arm or shirt.
They often give me an odd look and depart.
I have been stung, and some are more annoying than other.
Life goes on.
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Nov 17, 2018 5:32 PM CST
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Daisy- you reminded me of the time I was sitting out on our back porch in AZ. I heard buzzing. Loud buzzing. Looked up, and there were thousands of bees flying in a path over our house. I didn't move (or breathe) for fear they would change their path, but they were the killer bees that I had heard about. It happened about three times that year, where they flew over our house on a mission. Boy was that an eye opener- they were definitely not the good pollinators people are referring to on this thread!

On a side note, I always like it when the good bees visit our climbing roses, so I don't spray them any more, just fertilize. Yeah, sometimes the roses don't look as good but oh well.
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