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Feb 25, 2019 1:06 PM CST
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Name: Ivan
West Central Texas (Zone 7a)
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I just noticed my fruit trees starting to bloom and the weatherman predicting a frost this weekend. It used to be I'd try everything from plastic to sprinklers to save a little fruit but then I had an oldtimer tell me a trick to saving fruit that sounded more like an old wives tale than fact. He said "All you have to do is to hang some junk iron in your trees and the frost won't hurt them". Well, I had to try it the next time my trees were threatened and decided to do some experimenting with other forms of iron since that seemed to be the most likely variable. I sprayed several trees with an iron sulphate solution, some others with a chelated iron solution and then the third set of trees I wired up some old horseshoes and pipe connections in the center of the trees. Some trees I left alone as controls. That night it got down to 24 or 25 degrees F. A week or 2 later I checked them out and sure enough. All the controls had lost their fruit. But amazingly all the others treated with the junk and any form of iron had fruit. The one that stood out with the most was the one treated with iron sulphate. In fact, almost every bloom had set fruit so that I had to thin them out.
Anyway, I thought I'd share this in case anyone else wants to try it. I'm still curious as to the minimum temp that this will work so please let me know if you decide to give it a try.
"Never lose an opportunity of seeing anything beautiful, for beauty is God's handwriting."

RALPH WALDO EMERSON
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Feb 25, 2019 7:37 PM CST
Name: Deborah
Southern California (Zone 10a)
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What an interesting story! I hope some fruit growers chime in. I wonder what the science behind this would be?
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Feb 26, 2019 10:06 AM CST
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Name: Ivan
West Central Texas (Zone 7a)
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I wonder too, if it could have something to do with magnetism or the iron molecule itself generating heat in the plant or both. I always thought it would be a good project for a masters or phd degree, but I've waited too long to do it myself. I did post it in an ag magazine and afterward an ag chemical company made a liquid spray for frost prevention that included iron sulphate but it didn't stay on the market for long.
"Never lose an opportunity of seeing anything beautiful, for beauty is God's handwriting."

RALPH WALDO EMERSON
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Feb 26, 2019 7:13 PM CST
Name: Deborah
Southern California (Zone 10a)
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It seems that citrus growers would be interested in hearing from you!
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Feb 26, 2019 7:36 PM CST
Name: Carol
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I'm pretty sure citrus growers are more concerned with citrus psyllid than cold damage. A crop lost to cold would be disappointing, but the tree lost to disease would be devastating. They're supposed to be spraying and treating soil in my neighborhood the 28th, if the weather cooperates, which is not likely at this point.
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Feb 26, 2019 8:10 PM CST
Name: Deborah
Southern California (Zone 10a)
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I wonder if they still use smudge pots?
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Feb 26, 2019 8:46 PM CST
Name: Carol
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No. EPA won't allow them. They use fans now. I've learned since I started growing orchids that fans keep the air circulating, so frost can't settle on the plants. It also helps keep the pests at bay.
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Feb 27, 2019 6:20 PM CST
Name: Deborah
Southern California (Zone 10a)
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I still think that some citrus growers would find the iron thing interesting.
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Feb 27, 2019 8:09 PM CST
Name: Carol
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Possibly, but while iron deficiency is common in some areas, it's usually addressed by soil applications .
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Feb 27, 2019 10:08 PM CST
Name: Deborah
Southern California (Zone 10a)
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Just forget it. You've turned an interesting post into an argument. Sorry Ivan.
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Mar 1, 2019 6:18 PM CST
Name: Deborah
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Carol, I have been thinking that I owe you an apology. And if I had a beef I should not have posted it here. I'm sorry. I really am. And, we all have our own opinion and I shouldn't have jumped on you for yours. D'Oh!
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Mar 1, 2019 6:32 PM CST
Name: Carol
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No Problem, Deeby.
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Mar 1, 2019 6:34 PM CST
Name: Deborah
Southern California (Zone 10a)
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Dang it, that was so gracious I choked up a bit. Hey, can I blame it on you? nodding
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Mar 1, 2019 6:54 PM CST
Name: Audrey
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I have a peach tree blooming and some horse shoes I can hang from the tree. Freezes start Sunday till Tuesday. Now I should probably hang them facing up and not down so it is not bad luck Hilarious! It will at least be a funny story when people come over and wonder why I have horse shoes hanging from my tree!
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Mar 1, 2019 6:57 PM CST
Name: Carol
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Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing
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Mar 1, 2019 11:01 PM CST
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Name: Ivan
West Central Texas (Zone 7a)
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That should work. But here it's going to be a hard freeze. I put a 10 lb gearbox in my favorite plum tree and pipe parts in my new Starks peaches. Hoping that's enough.
"Never lose an opportunity of seeing anything beautiful, for beauty is God's handwriting."

RALPH WALDO EMERSON
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Mar 2, 2019 3:19 PM CST
Name: Deborah
Southern California (Zone 10a)
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Ivan, what fun! I can't wait for a report!
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Mar 2, 2019 4:54 PM CST
Name: Audrey
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I had a very busy day making garlic wreaths and setting traps for yetis in the woods, but I took some time out to hang some horse shoes in my peach tree(lucky side up of course). Rolling on the floor laughing I also put in some rail road spikes I had. I think they are iron. They are very heavy. What do you think Ivan? Is that enough? So far we are predicted with a low of 27. I am not sure for how long. Experiment is on!
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Mar 2, 2019 5:50 PM CST
Name: tfc
North Central TX (Zone 8a)
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You're hoping to catch yetis???
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Mar 2, 2019 9:39 PM CST
Name: Audrey
Central Texas (Zone 8a)
Adeniums Organic Gardener Keeper of Poultry Hummingbirder Keeps Horses Cactus and Succulents
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tx_flower_child said:You're hoping to catch yetis???


They make the best BBQ Big Grin

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