They affect you, what you grow, and the planet as well. Recycling, pollution, chemicals, and a host of other things. No political comments please.

I have pretty good neighbors now so my environment has improved.
May not leave nice and sloppy sheep manure on the garden as long as I have , as I want them to stick around.

Methane in the atmosphere is surging, and that's got scientists worried
https://www.latimes.com/scienc...

McCannon said:Methane in the atmosphere is surging, and that's got scientists worried
https://www.latimes.com/scienc...

Informative article.

Obviously there is no simple solution for cattle flatulence but I suspect that a lot of the methane comes from landfills and chemical plants and refineries that burn off the gas. We need more environmental regulation rather than less to solve long term problems.

A prime example in California. The leak was detected on 10/23/15 and not sealed until 2/18/16. What took them so long?

California Company Reaches $119.5 Million Settlement Over Massive Gas Leak
https://www.npr.org/2018/08/08...

flaflwrgrl said:
Informative article.

Good thing there are not millions of Bison out there farting.

No, we pretty much wiped them all out. I guess the reintroduced wolves aren't nearly as flatulent.

Mac - interesting thread topic. Here, plastic bags always recycled one way or another, our city does recycling for other stuff, use fabric or knit bags for produce instead of plastic, have reusable bags for groceries, lump errands together, no chemicals in the backyard which borders on wetlands and creek. The bigger picture beyond my home is scary. Methane from cattle or garbage landfills is really concerning. The chemicals in water and produce is as well. Alternative energy sources need more exploration and/or expansion.

I am screaming up a storm on this issue but those in charge aren't listening. Yet.


Report finds widespread contamination at nation's coal ash sites

https://www.washingtonpost.com...

Ann - I had quickly seen the headline this morning but hadn't read it yet. It is a real crime.

Duke Energy has always been a major contributor to the pollution problem. They've been denying that it's a problem for a long as I can remember. My question is why is the Virginia State Corporation Commission saying ratepayers should pay for the cleanup. They were lied to just like everyone else. I think the company owners and shareholders should be who's responsible for paying for cleanup.

I agree with you on that. Or the government gets stuck with the costs in which case we all pay. There is an on-going notable battle in IN about gas station cleanup from leaking tanks. And we have the lead issues in heavily industrialized East Chicago.

We had a truck stop/gas station near us that had been shuttered for years with both underground and above ground fuel tank. Built long before regulations were in place to check for leaks and spills. The building was finally taken down and tanks removed a couple years ago. I suspect the taxpayers footed the bill for that. The Feds seem somewhat reluctant to go after the polluters. The bankruptcy laws make it pretty easy to avoid paying.

McCannon said:We had a truck stop/gas station near us that had been shuttered for years with both underground and above ground fuel tank. Built long before regulations were in place to check for leaks and spills. The building was finally taken down and tanks removed a couple years ago. I suspect the taxpayers footed the bill for that. The Feds seem somewhat reluctant to go after the polluters. The bankruptcy laws make it pretty easy to avoid paying.

How many taxpayers filled up their cars, or bought fuel oil from that site or others similar?
I bet no one complained when doing that.
It is too easy to point fingers, ignorance is bliss.

Most fuel purchasers had no knowledge of leaking underground tanks. Why would they complain about something they knew nothing about?.

McCannon said:Most fuel purchasers had no knowledge of leaking underground tanks. Why would they complain about something they knew nothing about?.

As I said ignorance is bliss.

Or believing polluters are above the law.

They're not, and many of us are hoping that mentality will change before it's too late, Cindy.

Mac - I really believe we're at the tipping point. When air, ground, water and even food are so contaminated, I'm not sure that it can be undone. Money has indeed won out.

I understand that, Cindy, but we can't just give up. I must say your tag line does make that point though.