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May 31, 2012 8:14 PM CST
Name: tabby
denver, colorado zone 5
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OOoh, Sandi gave me a variegated Red Lion offset today. Smiling
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May 31, 2012 9:00 PM CST
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Now I am jealous. Sticking tongue out
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May 31, 2012 9:04 PM CST
Name: Sandi
Denver, Colorado (Zone 5b)
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I can send you and Twit one as well! Lovey dubby
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May 31, 2012 9:06 PM CST
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Hurray! Oh Sandi I would love that. Is there something I can send you?
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Jun 1, 2012 8:27 AM CST
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Same here!!!! Need anything?? You have my list. Thank YOU!
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Jun 3, 2012 6:58 AM CST
Name: Chris
Ripon, Wisconsin
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This is 'Pink Charm'. Last fall it looked like it was going to cone and flower, but didn't. Now it's just a strange clump almost like a hueff.
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Here is how a normal 'Pink Charm' looks.
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Jun 3, 2012 8:38 AM CST
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Chris, I still see some rosettes on that clump, but it does look unusual. I'm wondering how the plant would react to a vertical division? Each half might revert back to a normal looking plant when it regenerates, but then it may not. If not then you would have something new and unusual. Up for an interesting experiment?
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Jun 3, 2012 12:59 PM CST
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That is very interesting Chris. Wonder what it will do this year?

Here is my Ohioan that formed a bloom stalk last summer. I left it to bloom, but it didn't mature, just sat there all winter and spring.
Ohioan 2/6/2012
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Then it semi-bloomed and did this. Grew offsets beside the blooms. Blinking
6/2/2012
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Jun 3, 2012 3:03 PM CST
Name: Chris
Ripon, Wisconsin
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I'll have to see about the experiment. I'm so busy right now I'm not sure I care to mess with it. *Blush*
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Jun 3, 2012 4:33 PM CST
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Wonder if it had a bloom stalk last year and grew rosettes on it?
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Jun 8, 2012 2:07 AM CST
Name: Michelle Lester
Yukon, Oklahoma (Zone 7b)
hemhead in zone 7
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Just saw the neatest looking semp on ebay that is really trippy looking. It's at almost $30 for the mom and chick!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/A-very...
Very strange. Too pricy for me though.
Love the Red Lion!
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Jun 14, 2012 7:57 PM CST
Seattle WA. Zone 7
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Both these little guys have to live out their lives as crested noids, but I wanted to show them off.

Thought I was told this was a crested fuzzy wuzzy, but I can't be sure enough any more.
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This would have been entirely crested when I bought it, I think the newest growth is normal.
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Jun 14, 2012 8:14 PM CST
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It sure looks like it could be a crested Fuzzy Wuzzy.
That red is beautiful in the crested form and normal form.
How long have you had them Sherri?
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Jun 14, 2012 8:29 PM CST
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This is their second year. I have a new red one from this year, I think Jim said it was crested Boromir (?). It is still a tight little ball. I will try and get a picture of it too. I love the crested ones.
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Jun 14, 2012 8:33 PM CST
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What's not to love? They are so fascinating.

I have a large crested Orostachys spinosa that is a curious thing to see. : )
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Jun 14, 2012 8:35 PM CST
Seattle WA. Zone 7
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Would love to see a photo......
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Jun 14, 2012 9:20 PM CST
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Orostachys spinosa Not sure that this is fasciated or just misshapen?
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Jun 14, 2012 9:35 PM CST
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Wow, very nice.
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Jun 14, 2012 9:42 PM CST
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I'll just have to wait and see what it ends up doing. : )
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Jun 14, 2012 10:50 PM CST
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Lynn, I think I can help you determine whether its a crested form or not. Every crested I've seen so far has multiple growth points through the length of the crest. If you look closely at the crest, you should see what could be interpreted as very tiny offsets trying to form, except that they are stacked together in a closely packed array. This should be different from a distorted rosette, in that the rosette distortion will look more like densely packed leaves, without the circular, rosette pattern in the leaves that I typically see in my crested ones. This is based on the Deep Fire Crested I've seen. However, the Mauna Kea is young and not big enough to let me see that in it yet.

Hope my explanation is clear. Take a close look and see what you find. Let us know, please...I'm trying to verify this principle to assist in IDing crests at an earlier stage of development.

What I see in your pic is that your spinosa is a crested/fasciated rosette. You hopefully will confirm that but I think its clear in the picture. I would definitely do a vertical division to save it immediately upon seeing any signs of flowering. If it is an old one that you think may bloom, try to do surgical propagation so you don't lose it.

Wow, so many unusual ones. I did not know that there were so many. Maybe the group in this forum can get a nice, expanded collection of crests and other unusual forms going.

-t
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