Hostas forum: What do you think this could be?

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Name: Ann
Ottawa, ON Canada (Zone 5a)
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ViolaAnn
Jun 11, 2012 8:02 PM CST
I bought 'Gemini Moon' in 2008, I think. In 2009, I noticed two little plants at the side of it - similar colouring but different size and very different width margin.

In 2011, I separated them.

I've concluded that there was something else mixed in with GM when I bought it. But what? Guesses so far are possibly one of the Tiaras. But what do you think?First pic in 2009 Thumb of 2012-06-12/ViolaAnn/540a99

Early 2010 - the two small plants were unfurled long before GM Thumb of 2012-06-12/ViolaAnn/bdece8

2010 - June Thumb of 2012-06-12/ViolaAnn/b61989

2011 after being separated Thumb of 2012-06-12/ViolaAnn/86e46c

2012 Thumb of 2012-06-12/ViolaAnn/291583
Ann

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Name: Terese
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tcs1366
Jun 14, 2012 6:48 AM CST
Ann,

I love little surprises!! what little cuties.

I also have one, I have no idea what it is... but seems in the Tiara series.
but then seem like mini's... I know yrs ago, i tried to ID them with no luck.
Terese --Leesburg, FL & Lake Delton, Wi

Name: Ann
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ViolaAnn
Jun 14, 2012 10:34 AM CST
OK looking at myhostas.be, it lists a whole slew of "tiara" hostas. And that doesn't include ones that don't have "tiara" in the name like 'Grand Prize', 'Teaspoon' etc.

Amber Tiara Walters Gardens 1998 'Grand Tiara' sport
The all gold form of H. 'Grand Tiara', believed to be a tetraploid and has very thick leaves, spring color is quite bright; lots of large purple and white striped flowers in mid summer. http://hostalibrary.org/a/ambertiara.html

Crystal Tiara Walters Gardens 1998 'Grand Tiara' sport
STILL EXTREMELY RARE sport of Grand Tiara with clean white center and very wide bright yellow margin that becomes two tone as the older foliage becomes more chartreuse. Not a super fast grower, but very heavy substance. Another one showing great contrast with the dark purple flowers.
http://hostalibrary.org/c/crystaltiara.html

Diamond Tiara T & Z Nursery/Mark Zilis 1985 'Golden Tiara' sport
Narrow white edge on medium green leaves. Dark lavender flowers in late June. A small green with white margins.
http://hostalibrary.org/d/diamondtiar.html

Emerald Tiara Walters Gardens 1988 'Golden Scepter' sport
This reverse mutation of H. 'Golden Tiara' boasts the same round leaves, but with gold centers and a nice green edge. This vigorous clumper to 2' wide sports hundreds of dark lavender flowers in summer... nice! http://hostalibrary.org/e/emeraldt.html

Flame Tiara J. Van Ostrand/P. Postlewaite 2004 'Amber Tiara' sport
3 color medio-variegated. no picture in Hosta Library

Flemish Tiara Danny Van Eechaute NO INFO AVAILABLE on myhostas.be http://hostalibrary.org/f/flemishtiara.html (the page says, 'Fair Maiden' - a mistake, but the pics are there).

Floral Tiara
Similar to 'Golden Tiara'. Flowers twice the size, no picture in Hosta Library

Ghost Tiara Bill Meyer NO INFO AVAILABLE on myhostas.be http://hostalibrary.org/g/ghosttiara.html

Gilded Tiara Walters Gardens 1998 'Grand Tiara' sport
TC sport - not other info available http://hostalibrary.org/g/gildedtiara.html

Glen Tiara Viktoria Serafin 2003 'Golden Tiara' sport
a sport of 'Golden Tiara'. It was found at Glenbrook Farm several years ago, and is not available anywhere else. It has proven to be completely stable and, like all Tiaras, an excellent grower. The gold edges widen as the plant matures. The leaves are slightly larger and rounder than those of 'Golden Tiara'. Despite superficial similarity to 'Grand Tiara', it is distinctly different. http://hostalibrary.org/g/glentiara.html

Golden Tiara Bob Savory 1977 nakaiana seedling
Heart-shaped, green leaves with a wide, golden margin. http://hostalibrary.org/g/goldent.html [MINE MIGHT BE THIS}

Grand Tiara Ali Pollock 1991 'Golden Tiara' sport
A sport of 'Golden Tiara', the leaf is larger and seems to have more substance. The gold margin is much wider, giving the effect of a golden yellow leaf with a center splash of green. The width of the margin is variable with exposure and season.

Heavenly Tiara Walters Gardens 1998 'Grand Tiara' sport
The wide white halo margin stays clean all season while the center can pick up the two tone color as the young leaves are a very bright yellow and the older leaves become more chartreuse. http://hostalibrary.org/g/grandt.html

Ivory Tiara Bill Meyer 'Grand Tiara' sport NO INFO AVAILABLE on myhostas.be http://hostalibrary.org/i/ivorytiara.html [I think I'd like one of these].

Jade Tiara Mark R. Zilis or Walters Gardens? 'Golden Tiara' sport NO INFO AVAILABLE on myhostas.be no picture in Hosta Library

Lime Tiara Jim Hawes 'Emerald Scepter' sport
Gorgeous lime-green sport of 'Emerald Scepter'. Lost? no picture in Hosta Library

Margaret Mary Tiara D. Hovekamp 2001 'Diamond Tiara' sport NO INFO AVAILABLE on myhostas.be no picture in Hosta Library

Opal Tiara Bill Meyer 'Golden Scepter' sport NO INFO AVAILABLE on myhostas.be no picture in Hosta Library

Pearl Tiara Bill Meyer 'Diamond Tiara' sport
Has a much wider white margin and remains smaller than it's parent. http://hostalibrary.org/p/pearltiara.html

Platinum Tiara Walters Gardens 1987 'Golden Scepter' sport
The small, roundish leaf is a pale green gold with a white edge and some light streaking throughout. http://hostalibrary.org/p/plat.html

Ribbon Tiara Bill Meyer 'Golden Tiara' sport
This highly unusual 'Golden Tiara' sport features a narrow stripe of green down the middle of each leaf. This odd pattern is the result of a chance mutation in which the green tissue now grows much more slowly than the gold. Very unusual, with the same coloration as its parent. A bit slower growing than most other Tiaras. http://hostalibrary.org/r/ribbontiara.html

Royal Tiara T&Z Nursery/Mark Zilis 1988 unknown
The most unusual of all the "Tiaras" known for its very odd, gnarled, white-centered foliage; becoming increasingly popular for its strange habits; http://hostalibrary.org/r/royalt.html

Russian Tiara NO INFO AVAILABLE on myhostas.be http://hostalibrary.org/r/russiantiara.html

Silver Tiara Walters Gardens 1988 'Golden Scepter' sport
'Silver Tiara' was a white-centered form that existed long enough at Walters to get a name, but did not survive the move out into the gardens of the real world. If there are any left, I'd be surprised. no picture in Hosta Library

Streaked Tiara T&Z/Walters 'Golden Tiara' sport No longer exists. no picture in Hosta Library

Sunny Tiara R. Flink/Savory's Garden 2006 'Golden Tiara' sport NO INFO AVAILABLE on myhostas.be no picture in Hosta Library

Topaz Tiara Walters Gardens 1998 'Grand Tiara' sport
the rarest of the Walters Tiaras, having the same coloration as H. 'Emerald Tiara' with heavier substance. http://hostalibrary.org/t/topaztiara.html

Ann

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Name: virginiarose
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virginiarose
Jun 14, 2012 7:02 PM CST
I really like that little Crystal Tiara. Green Grin! I tip my hat to you. Thumbs up
Susan

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Name: Terese
Central Florida, zone9b (Zone 9b)
Wisconsin Dells Area, zone4
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tcs1366
Jun 14, 2012 7:44 PM CST
Holy Toledo Ann.... hope you didn't type all of that.

that is A LOT of information....

here is mine... i have a photo somewhere with it in bloom, very purple blooms.
it's only about 4-5"tall

but certainly looks in the Tiara family....
yellow-ish margins and a nice deep green,
not thick, but are not ever bothered by slugs.
Thumb of 2012-06-15/tcs1366/769856
Terese --Leesburg, FL & Lake Delton, Wi

Name: Christine
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Christine27360
Jun 14, 2012 8:12 PM CST
Well considering emini Moon comes from Abiqua Moonbeam -- it will be interesting to see if this is reverting back to it's parent -- but will have to see. Now I am going to go look at my Gemini Moon to see if I see any "little friends"!! Blinking
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Name: virginiarose
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virginiarose
Jun 14, 2012 8:39 PM CST
Very cute Terese! Lovey dubby
Susan

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Name: Ann
Ottawa, ON Canada (Zone 5a)
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ViolaAnn
Jun 15, 2012 12:24 PM CST
Terese - the wonders of copy and paste. No, I didn't type it all. Do you know which Tiara you showed us?
Ann

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Name: Terese
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tcs1366
Jun 15, 2012 2:43 PM CST
Ann - -that is my Tiara NOid.

they are quite small, but grow / multiply pretty quickly.

I attempted to ID it on DG once... no luck.
Terese --Leesburg, FL & Lake Delton, Wi

Name: Paul
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Paul2032
Jun 15, 2012 6:26 PM CST
They look like Golden Tiara to me...

Paul Smith Pleasant Grove, Utah
Name: Terese
Central Florida, zone9b (Zone 9b)
Wisconsin Dells Area, zone4
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tcs1366
Jun 15, 2012 6:55 PM CST
I have Golden Tiara, at home and in Wisc - where the NOid is... this one is much smaller.

We bought this place 6 yrs ago, it has multiplied, but never gotten any larger leaf-wise in 6 yrs.
Terese --Leesburg, FL & Lake Delton, Wi

Name: Ann
Ottawa, ON Canada (Zone 5a)
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ViolaAnn
Jun 15, 2012 9:06 PM CST
maybe you need to make up a name for it. Terese's Tiara or something.
Ann

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Name: Terese
Central Florida, zone9b (Zone 9b)
Wisconsin Dells Area, zone4
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tcs1366
Jun 16, 2012 5:29 PM CST
Oh -- if only i had a Tiara [DH seems to call me the Queen, though i have no idea why]

I did look at my Golden Tiara today... totally a mounding habit, where this one does not.
Terese --Leesburg, FL & Lake Delton, Wi

Name: Sylvia Butler
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citysylvia
Jan 19, 2013 3:23 PM CST
It sure looks like a Grand Tiara I had ... the big wide margins ... its a beauty!
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Name: virginiarose
Virginia
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virginiarose
Jan 19, 2013 4:59 PM CST
Mine gets a lot of sun and looks nothing like that.

Thumb of 2013-01-19/virginiarose/8e1825

This one is from the database and it does look like that. Thumbs up


Susan

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