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Jun 14, 2012 4:09 PM CST
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Name: Sharon
McGregor IA (Zone 4b)
Outside leaves turning brown are natural, but I have noticed some fans that have the middle inside leaf that is brown; either a dry brown, or a wet rotty brown.
Is this something unusual, or have you noticed this also? Any idea what causes this?
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Jun 14, 2012 9:01 PM CST
Name: Lucy
Tri Cities, WA (Zone 6b)
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Do you have borers? They turn leaves wet & you have to get them out. If not, try thrip. I am encouraging am I not?
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Jun 15, 2012 5:26 AM CST
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Name: Sharon
McGregor IA (Zone 4b)
What do thrip do?
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Jun 15, 2012 5:59 AM CST
Name: Leon
Indiana (Zone 5a)
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This information is from my own iris pest experiences. Scroll down about 2/3 to see my input on borers. HTH: http://www.countrylivingandgar...

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Jun 15, 2012 7:14 AM CST
Name: Tom
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What a wonderful resource Leon! Thanks for posting it.
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Jun 15, 2012 8:54 AM CST
Name: Lucy
Tri Cities, WA (Zone 6b)
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Thrips eat & weaken the leaves. We only had them one time, but they sure make the plant look messy. Someone else gave us the ID.
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Jun 15, 2012 2:51 PM CST
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Name: Sharon
McGregor IA (Zone 4b)
Very good info Leon, thanks! I have had a lot of borer experience, and I think this is something different.
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Jun 15, 2012 3:09 PM CST
Name: Lucy
Tri Cities, WA (Zone 6b)
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we used a product called 'dysyston' which got rid of the thrip. It is systemic. Also worked on leaf minor.
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Jun 16, 2012 4:57 AM CST
Name: Vi
Ocean Springs, MS (Zone 8b)
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Love your website, great information and I love the photos of your Iris, beautiful.
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Jun 27, 2012 1:06 PM CST
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Name: Sharon
McGregor IA (Zone 4b)
Well, I dug up some and looked for borers, but there aren't any. It may just be drought; I haven't been watering irises until just now. The rhizome I dug was looking kinda shriveled and the roots looked dead, although there were a few new whit ones starting. Is this how the roots look when they are ready to be divided? Or did I just make a save on this one....(I hope)
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Jul 2, 2012 12:45 PM CST
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Name: Sharon
McGregor IA (Zone 4b)
I just reread a brochure about growing irises from the AIS, and it has a picture that is very similar to the yellowing and browning inner fan laves I have been seeing. They call it "scorch".
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Jul 2, 2012 1:42 PM CST
Name: Lucy
Tri Cities, WA (Zone 6b)
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ouch tough to get rid of.
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Jul 2, 2012 2:02 PM CST
Name: Mary Ann
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Caused by what, Caitlin?
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Jul 3, 2012 5:36 AM CST
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Name: Sharon
McGregor IA (Zone 4b)
It said maybe early heat followed by frost, which is what we had this year for sure.
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Jul 3, 2012 6:37 AM CST
Name: Mary Ann
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Ah. Well -- if your rhizomes are producing new white roots, then they're not dead -- just *resetting* themselves for future growth. It has been a wierd-weather year for sure -- no surprise that we're seeing wierd plant problems. Sad
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Jul 5, 2012 10:03 AM CST
Name: Polly Kinsman
Hannibal, NY (Zone 6a)

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It's my understanding scorch is a disease. Lucy?
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Jul 6, 2012 9:26 AM CST
Name: Lucy
Tri Cities, WA (Zone 6b)
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yes The only treatment I have heard is to dig it up & let sit in the sun for a day or so. We haven't had it here.
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Jul 17, 2012 11:24 AM CST
Name: Betty
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I seem to remember that the main reason Paul Black left Oklahoma was a wicked case of scorch, where he lost almost all of his stock, and that he later said that if it is true scorch you should probably just get rid of the rhizome(s). Does anyone else remember that?

I thought I had it the first year I potted up a bunch of iris and put them out in the sun and watered them in the middle of the day (what a fool I was!), but I think it was just stress on the plants plus the beginnings of bacterial soft rot. I learned later that that was the worst thing I could have done, because in our 100+ summer temps and watering them in the sunlight they are really susceptible to soft rot. Heat and moisture, plus too much nitrogen, really encourage soft rot. But I had many where the center leaf turned brown and that's why I thought it was scorch. After I lost a couple and did some reading we created a plywood table on sawhorses and I put the pots under a shade tree -- and I've had great luck ever since!
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Jul 31, 2012 6:10 AM CST
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Name: Sharon
McGregor IA (Zone 4b)
I am moving all the irises that still look unhealthy to another bed. I noticed black mold like streaks on some of the brown foliage...
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Jul 31, 2012 7:22 AM CST
Name: Mary Ann
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Yikes. I'm so sorry. Crying
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