Adeniums forum: My newest adenium looks unhappy

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Name: Ive
Florida (Zone 10b)
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MamaIve12
Jul 1, 2012 7:13 AM CST
Well, I'm trying to figure out if I did something wrong. Remember that beautiful double flower adenium I purchased a couple of weeks ago?

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I have kept it on the screened patio thinking that it needed to get accustomed to its new space. It had exactly tree blooms, and now it's just there, looking not exactly happy, at least in comparison with my other adeniums, which even the one I hard pruned the other day (I left one branch that had buds) is blooming.

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So... should I let it be, move it from the location I have it now, re-pot it? Am I just being impatient? Sticking tongue out
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Name: Jim Cook
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jimsned2
Jul 1, 2012 10:26 AM CST
It sure looks healthy to me, I'd vote impatient, I'm wondering if that soil might be too moist?

Jim

Name: Michael Hicks
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chefmike92
Jul 1, 2012 10:29 AM CST
Ive
One thing to remember if you got this plant only a few weeks ago it has to get used to new living conditions. did you get it bare root? or did you re-pot sense you had it?

these are the biggest questions due to if you get bare root 90% of the feeder roots have died. When you pot them up they need to start forming feeder roots until that it is relying on the supply of energy that is stored in the caudex. they first defense of these plants to survive is to drop flowers ( they are not needed to survive) then it will start to drop leaves to conserve some energy till root formation is sufficient.

If you re potted it same thing you lost 50-80% of the feeder roots.and all the top rules apply
it will be the time to get that baby sun and heat . if you have a big tree put it under it for 2-3 days then sun baby sun....they love heat and sun once it is custom to the sun.

it looks healthy just time to make its next step.

if it is in the same pot you got it in un pot it and look at the roots you want white hair(feeder roots) and larger roots white/green.....if you have black mushy roots BAD sign to much water roots are rotting. but this is ONLY if you got it rooted and have not re-potted it.

They like to be drenched then 98% dry drenched then 98% dry.

the reason i think all your others you have even the hard pruned one is the roots where already formed and not deturbed. so there feeding was not disturbed.
does this make sense?

BTW i ramble and try to cover all possibility's lot to read but hope one fits your case.
post again with what you find or have done MANY others will also have advice this is just the way i see it.
good luck
mike
Name: Ive
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MamaIve12
Jul 1, 2012 11:49 AM CST
I got it locally; it wasn't bare rooted. I decided to wait a few weeks to re-pot it, since it looked nice and comfy on the plastic pot it came with.

My screened porch/patio gets quite a bit of sun, but of course, not as much as where I have my other adeniums. My screened porch does get a lot of humidity, does this bother adeniums?

I wonder if I should just take it outside, and see if it gets happy.

Thinking about it, I guess I watered a bit more than usual, just because it's summer, but the pot has very good drainage, which is why I'm a bit puzzled.

I do tend to be impatient, which is why it's a mystery to people who know me why I'm getting attached to african violets and orchids as well.

Lots of lessons to be learned... patience being one of them. nodding
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Name: Michael Hicks
Clermont, Fl
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chefmike92
Jul 1, 2012 12:50 PM CST
most the time you can gently pull out of pot and not desterb the roots and see if they look black mushy if not you can put right back in the pot and move to get good sun and stop watering until it drys out.

if the roots are black and mushy you need to intervene and take all dirt off and rinse it clean cut off all bad black mushy rotted roots.if this happens take a few pics of it and post we will walk you threw this surgery. I think it needs to be in more sun and less water and these hybrids don't flower all the time. they set flowers and bloom drop and it takes a while to flower again.

mike
Name: Melissa E. Keyes
St. Croix, U.S. Virgin Islands
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coconut
Jul 2, 2012 8:52 AM CST
Crummy flower, but the plant looks happy.

Better fertilizer is on a basis of 1-2-3, As in, not 20-20-20, but 10-20-30. Done weakly weekly. I bought some stuff, Muriate of Potash, and add a bit to my bloom booster. I guess as to how much!! Too much of the first number, and you get long stems, big leaves, and weak branches that flop.

I usually mix a gallon of fert, then add 1/4 of the mix to 3/4 gallon of water.

I'll go find the new micro nutrient fertilizer that I just found, and post somewhere here---- Good amounts of zinc, boron and copper.
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Name: Ive
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MamaIve12
Jul 2, 2012 9:21 AM CST
I have been using Osmocote. Is that bad for adeniums? My other plants seem to like the slow release fertilizer...
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Name: Melissa E. Keyes
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coconut
Jul 2, 2012 9:59 AM CST
Osmocote is fine, tho' a little too much nitrogen. 13-13-13?
Name: Michael Hicks
Clermont, Fl
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chefmike92
Jul 2, 2012 10:03 AM CST
As Mellisa said you don't want to much nitrogen it growers fast but in the long run you will be unhappy due to weak branched the name of the fert. is not the key it is the numbers like she said a balanced is good for most plants bit the adeniums grow stronger with less then more that is why dilute it. a slow release is great but the 3# are the key

Name: Ive
Florida (Zone 10b)
Butterflies Container Gardener Region: Florida Enjoys or suffers hot summers Sempervivums Orchids
Plumerias Dragonflies Birds
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MamaIve12
Jul 2, 2012 11:07 AM CST
The Osmocote is 19-6-12... I guess I should look for something else for the adeniums, just in case. Thanks for your suggestions!
Gardening is cheaper than therapy!
Boricua in Florida, I guess that makes me a Floridicua!
Name: Michael Hicks
Clermont, Fl
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Dog Lover Plumerias Orchids Tropicals
Amaryllis Region: Florida Region: United States of America Roses
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chefmike92
Jul 2, 2012 11:43 AM CST
the first # is the nitro you want that lower

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