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Name: Mike Stewart
Lower Hudson Valley, NY (Zone 6b)
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Mike
Feb 25, 2010 9:57 PM CST
Here in the northeast we're getting pummeled by a major snow storm tonight, and it's wreaking havoc. We've gotten over a foot's accumulation in my back yard, and the snow is exceptionally heavy because it's mixed with freezing rain. I've got about two dozen normally towering Arbor Vitae that are now bent over from the weight of the snow, with many of the top branches touching the ground. The one next to the garden shed has snapped in half at about 8 feet above the ground, despite its thick trunk - so frustrating to see! In an effort to prevent others from suffering permanent damage I went out tonight and used a broom to push, brush, shake, whack, and otherwise try to get the snow off of them. It helped some, but the snow is still coming down, and I'm afraid the trees are just going to be bent back over again by tomorrow morning. They are pretty resilient, but in previous years some of them have become nearly permanently bent from snow damage, and I don't remember those storms being as bad as this one. I'm exhausted from pushing on the trees with the broom, and dodging the snow as it comes tumbling off the branches. And the birds are pretty put out with me, too, for disturbing them in their branches. They were flying around in the backyard at 10:00 tonight fussing at me. Oh, well, hopefully they'll realize I'm the same guy who feeds them every morning, and meant them no harm. Come to think of it, if I hadn't shoved the snow out of those branches, they might have swung back up when the snow melts, catapulting the birds across the back yard at high speed. Now THAT would be a sight to see!

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Name: Toni
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Skiekitty
Feb 25, 2010 11:24 PM CST
I know *all* about losing a tree to heavy snows!!! I lost a mature ash tree to heavy snow back right after I bought my house.

The birds will forgive you. And, if you're tired of snow, send it my way.. I need the moisture! We're only at about 84% snowpack, which means drought & water rationing AGAIN. Bleh.
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Name: Evey Blalock
South Louisiana - Zone 8b/9a (Zone 8b)
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BlissfulGarden
Feb 26, 2010 1:59 AM CST
I'm so sorry, Mike. I hope you wake to good news for the other trees rather than bad.
~Evey =)

"Grow where you are planted." - My gpa
Name: Mike Stewart
Lower Hudson Valley, NY (Zone 6b)
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Mike
Feb 26, 2010 9:53 AM CST
Well, we got about 20 inches of snow, the Arbor Vitae are all bent over again, and I had to wade over to my neighbor's house this morning after his wife called an ambulance to take him to the hospital (pain from cancer). Then we began digging out the driveway. And we're going to get more snow! Ugh. I want to go back to Zuzu's house!!!
Name: Suzanne/Sue
Sebastopol, CA (Zone 9a)
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Calif_Sue
Feb 28, 2010 11:31 AM CST

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Ha, I was going to say, you about ready to come back to Calif.?!
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Name: Mike Stewart
Lower Hudson Valley, NY (Zone 6b)
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Mike
Feb 28, 2010 11:32 AM CST
Yes, Zuzu, I am SO ready!
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zuzu
Feb 28, 2010 3:07 PM CST

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Then get back here right now! Sue and I are ready to start trolling the nurseries. The adventure starts on Thursday.
Name: Evey Blalock
South Louisiana - Zone 8b/9a (Zone 8b)
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BlissfulGarden
Mar 1, 2010 6:13 PM CST
I want to go trolling!!!
~Evey =)

"Grow where you are planted." - My gpa
Name: Suzanne/Sue
Sebastopol, CA (Zone 9a)
Sunset Zone 15
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Calif_Sue
Mar 1, 2010 9:28 PM CST

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Hurry, my vehicle seats 6!
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Name: Evey Blalock
South Louisiana - Zone 8b/9a (Zone 8b)
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BlissfulGarden
Mar 1, 2010 10:33 PM CST
Okay, let me put my jogging shoes on... I should be there in.... ummmm, ohhhhh, in the words of SNL, "Nevermind!" =P

If I could, I would!
~Evey =)

"Grow where you are planted." - My gpa
Name: Mike Stewart
Lower Hudson Valley, NY (Zone 6b)
Seed Starter Container Gardener Roses Bulbs I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Peonies
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Mike
Mar 2, 2010 9:23 AM CST
Oh, what a terrible morning I've had so far. I discovered that three of my 20 year old arbor vitae trees were destroyed by the storm. In addition to the one I already knew about, two more beside it were split right down to the base of the trunk, and are now lying prostrate. So three in a row are lost, and I now have a big gaping hole in the tall privacy hedge that separates my yard from my mentally deranged neighbor who has yelling fits once every so often. The only good thing is that I now have a better view of his red bud tree, but it sustained damage too. We still have people without power since last Thursday night in the area, and there are downed trees all over the neighborhood. Sigh...
Name: Evey Blalock
South Louisiana - Zone 8b/9a (Zone 8b)
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Cat Lover Dog Lover Ponds Herbs Garden Art
Daylilies Irises Clematis Roses Region: Louisiana
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BlissfulGarden
Mar 2, 2010 10:29 AM CST
Oh Mike, that's AWFUL!!! I feel so bad for all of you up north this year... it's been brutal for y'all. News said another front is coming too. Will this winter never end?
~Evey =)

"Grow where you are planted." - My gpa
Name: Mike Stewart
Lower Hudson Valley, NY (Zone 6b)
Seed Starter Container Gardener Roses Bulbs I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Peonies
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Mike
Mar 2, 2010 10:53 AM CST
Thanks Evey. I would have preferred to sustain damage to the fence, the garden shed, the deck - anything else that I could have repaired. I can't imagine what it's going to be like to dig out the roots of those trees to replace them. I don't know if it's even possible. They're on a terraced portion of the back yard right next to the fence and a drop-off, and form the backdrop of a narrow strip of the garden that I like to call Hybrid Tea Row. Getting in there will be really difficult, and I'm sure I'd have to dig up the perennials around them to keep from stepping on them while digging out the roots. I don't even want to think about this.

Is it too early for a drink yet? (It must be after 5:00 PM somewhere in the world!)
Name: Toni
Denver Metro (Zone 5a)
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Skiekitty
Mar 2, 2010 11:36 AM CST
Oh, you poor thing. I can sympathize.. I *know* your pain. The attached picture was taken Oct 10, 2005, less than 2 months after I bought my house.. and I bought it because it had two mature trees in the back yard. But digging up arbor vitae isn't that bad, they don't have THAT bad of a root ball. Actually, if there's any way possible, rent a bobcat (they have little bitty ones that are like 3' wide) and you can grub up the rootsystem pretty easily.. I had that done last year w/some old juniper stumps. I had to dig up some roses to prevent them from getting run over, but it was SOOO worth it rather than the backbreaking work of trying to dig it up by hand. Maybe *Maybe* you can take down the fence & bribe your neighbor somehow to allowing the bobcat to go through via his side? Or, even renting a skidsteer would be better!

Or some M80s planted in a row around the stumps... :D

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Name: Mike Stewart
Lower Hudson Valley, NY (Zone 6b)
Seed Starter Container Gardener Roses Bulbs I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Peonies
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Mike
Mar 2, 2010 12:03 PM CST
Alas, there's no way to get any heavy equipment in the back yard, because my house is built on a steep slope. The back yard is entirely fenced in, and both side yards are landscaped with big flagstone steps, so there's no way to get equipment down there even if I removed a portion of the fence. And even if my deranged neighbor wasn't so deranged, it wouldn't do any good to ask if I could bring in heavy equipment through his yard, because my trees were planted at the very end of my yard, which is terraced in by a five-foot high retaining wall made of landscape timbers, and there's a 90 degree perpendicular drop-off between my yard and my neighbor's.

I wonder where I can get some of those M-80s...
Name: Evey Blalock
South Louisiana - Zone 8b/9a (Zone 8b)
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BlissfulGarden
Mar 2, 2010 12:10 PM CST
Mike said:Is it too early for a drink yet? (It must be after 5:00 PM somewhere in the world!)

Well, it's 1pm there already... and Bloody Mary's (how do you pluralize that?!) and Mimosas ARE considered brunch drinks anyway! =P

~Evey =)

"Grow where you are planted." - My gpa
Name: Toni
Denver Metro (Zone 5a)
Whiskey Tango Foxtrot.
Charter ATP Member Irises Salvias Xeriscape Birds I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
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Skiekitty
Mar 2, 2010 12:14 PM CST
Evey - Plus, Bloody Marys have tomato juice, so you're getting antioxidants AND a serving of fruits/veggies! It's GOOD for you, and if you eat the celery, you actually burn more calories than the celery has in it, so it'll help you lose weight! Yay!

Excuse me while I make my dark-chocolate sandwich made with honey (natural sugars) and cinnamon raisin bread (whole wheat, so it's good for you, plus cinnamon helps with diabetes & raisins are a fruit, so it's all GOOD FOR YOU! YAY!)

(actually, while writing that, I think I threw up a little).

Are fireworks legal in LA? I know they're legal in WY.. I could probably drive up to Cheyenne & pick some up.
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Andi
Mar 4, 2010 7:05 PM CST
Sorry about your trees, Mike.Could they grow back from the stumps?

My deranged neighbor, the boozehag, is moving in a month!!! Better yet, she is taking her pothead boyfriend and their junkyard dog with her. They are the charming couple who sprayed my potted honeysuckle with roundup on purpose just because they are drunk and nasty. I will finally be able to enjoy bbqs on my patio again without drunken shouting and insults.
Name: Mike Stewart
Lower Hudson Valley, NY (Zone 6b)
Seed Starter Container Gardener Roses Bulbs I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Peonies
Clematis Lover of wildlife (Black bear badge) Dog Lover Cat Lover Birds Region: New York
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Mike
Mar 4, 2010 8:16 PM CST
Andi, it sounds like your neighbors are worse than mine!

I've been wondering if the better thing is to see what grows from the stumps this summer, or to replace them with 8 foot specimens. I think I may give them a year to see what happens. Wrestling those roots out the ground would be a massive undertaking, and could only aggravate my tendonitis on top of everything else!
Name: Toni
Denver Metro (Zone 5a)
Whiskey Tango Foxtrot.
Charter ATP Member Irises Salvias Xeriscape Birds I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
Garden Ideas: Master Level Garden Procrastinator The WITWIT Badge Region: Colorado Enjoys or suffers cold winters Cat Lover
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Skiekitty
Mar 5, 2010 10:09 AM CST
Andi - OMG, if someone had sprayed one of my honeysuckles w/Roundup, that'd be fightin' words! wow! Couldn't you call the police or no proof?

Mike - *would* arbor vitae grow back from stumps? Luckily my juniper didn't try...
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