Daylilies forum: Question for Northern Pollen Dabbers

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Name: Sandi
Franklin, WI (Zone 5a)
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Seedsower
Jul 14, 2012 6:51 AM CST
If you would be at the point where you have something you might want to consider registering, do you, or have you sent a division of your plant to someone in the south to see how it performs...to include bud count, branching etc?

I've inquired at other times what's the least bud count one might require if they are considering it for registration. I have a difficult time with this since probably 98% of my plants don't produce the bud count the hybridizers or AHS websites list.

I just love Ashton's Giggles which is listed at 20 buds. The average bud count for this cultivar in my garden is 7 or 8 per scape. If this was one of my crosses I would not consider registering it because of the bud count even though it is a beautiful flower on a wonderful plant overall and when there are several scapes that are in bloom it is amazing. I know plants produce better in the south which is the reason for my inquiry.

Thoughts? Thanks

Edited to add a photo of Ashton's Giggles....

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Name: Juli
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daylily
Jul 14, 2012 8:51 AM CST
First, what is that GORGEOUS sculpted daylily in your avatar? Wow! Lovey dubby Lovey dubby Lovey dubby

I have a couple seedlings guested in other gardens near me. People who fertilize, water more than I do.

I don't think it is normal for people to send things north/south etc. any more. Years ago they did. Now, if a Hybridizer sends things around the country to test them they can miss 2-3 years waiting to hear back from the people. Trends may have changed, or someone could intro a similar flower in that time.

I think it depends on the plant on buds. Dip spiders - I consider 15 good in my garden where they don't get a lot of super soil or watering. Tets - I'd like to see an average of 25-30. I do have a dip double that blooms and blooms - but only has 6-10 buds, and I am still considering naming it. It blooms a long time because the scapes don't all come up at once.
Name: Cynthia (Cindy)
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Hemlady
Jul 14, 2012 9:41 AM CST
I used to send my plants north to test for northern hardiness but I haven't done that in several years, I have never sent any south but I have heard from customers in the south that have purchased some that many of my plants have rebloomed for them which is good to know. I guess if they have good bud counts in the north, they should certainly have better in the south. I just do not register any unless they have good bud count. I did register a couple with 12 buds but they bloom for a long period of time because buds don't develop real fast.
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Name: Sandi
Franklin, WI (Zone 5a)
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Daylilies
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Seedsower
Jul 14, 2012 10:14 AM CST
That's Carved Pumpkin Pie in my avatar. First bloom was around June 21st, it's still blooming. The color really jumps out at ya and I love the sculpting!

Thanks for the input on sending seedlings south. I'll never see 25-30 buds on any of my seedlings or registered cultivars. Only did one time, on a Big Smile seedling that had 50 buds, but otherwise everything is pretty much in the "ten" range. I've seen registered cultivars at the AHS site that list 5 buds so this kind of had my mid reeling.

In the interim I guess I won't look for someone to grow any of my seedlings down south since it doesn't seem to be protocol.

Keep the opinions coming, much appreciated!
Name: Juli
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daylily
Jul 14, 2012 1:56 PM CST
I should have know that was Carved PP. A friend has it, and I always notice it at his house. How does it do for you up in WI? He says it is the best Salter for performance he has had.

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