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Sep 14, 2019 12:55 PM CST
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Wales UK
Region: Wales
Just wondering if anyone else here has ordered the very impresive award winning "Gabriel Oak" rose ?

I ordered it (bare root) in May after it was awarded gold medal award at the Chelsea Flower Show

I'm looking forward to receiving it in November

all the details are here https://www.davidaustinroses.c...

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cheers
Tafy
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Sep 14, 2019 1:05 PM CST
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The system won't let you post links until you've been here for a while. It's to guard against spamming. Here's a link to the David Austin page.

https://www.davidaustinroses.c...
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Sep 15, 2019 12:23 AM CST
Name: Carol
Alberta, Canada (Zone 3b)
Oh my!!! That's stunning!!

Welcome, Tafy!! Group hug I can't wait to see how it does in your garden. Smiling
Oh, and you're from Wales! How cool!
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Sep 15, 2019 7:41 AM CST
Name: Jim
Central Pa. (Zone 6a)
Nice!
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Sep 15, 2019 4:17 PM CST
Name: Lola
Tasmania
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Welcome Tafy Welcome!
Because it is a new release I am unlikely to see it for many years. It looks lovely and I know just where I would put it but I won't hold my breath waiting for it. My climate is similar to south Wales so if it does well there it should do well here.
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Sep 16, 2019 1:19 AM CST
Zone 9, Sunset Zone 9 (Zone 9b)
Roses
Welcome Tafy! We too are not likely to see that rose in the US for another year or two as it has to go through quarantine. We hope you share pictures with us and tell us how it is growing for you.
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Sep 16, 2019 3:17 AM CST
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Wales UK
Region: Wales
Mustbnuts said:Welcome Tafy We hope you share pictures with us and tell us how it is growing for you.

Hi Mustbnuts
Yes of course I will most definately.....
You will all be kept updated with pics from the day I receive the bare root how I plant it ,where I plant it etc which will be in a very large plastic plant pot the same as all my other roses because I have a large Patio, I will post regular pics of it's progress throught the season.

I will also start a new thread shortly posting pics of all my my roses for you all to see.
cheers
Tafy
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Sep 16, 2019 10:10 AM CST
Name: Ken Wilkinson
N.E. GA. (Cornelia) (Zone 7b)
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I think I just might need to have this beauty in my garden when it becomes available here in the States.
It's a rose!!! It has nothing to do with life and death.
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Oct 12, 2019 3:35 PM CST
Ventura County, California
Zone 10 Ventura County, CA
Any suggestions for David Austins that thrive in heat and are also good cut flowers? So far, Charles Rennie MacIntosh is my best Austin performer. I am considering Princess Ann and The Wedgewood Rose and The Alnwick Rose. Comments would be most appreciated.

Can't wait to see how the new beauty, Gabriel Oak, performs. Thanks for keeping us posted.
Always seeking recommendations and advice. I welcome suggestions for heat loving roses with great scent, disease resistance, and long vase life.
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Oct 12, 2019 5:16 PM CST
Name: Rosemary
Sacramento, CA (Zone 9b)
I have Princess Anne and assume it is recommended for our zone 9 climate which is hot in the summertime since it was bought from the UC Davis nursery. It blooms best when it's not so hot. When it is hot, if it blooms, the blossoms shatter easily and are here today and gone tomorrow. Very pretty luscious raspberry color otherwise. Not that much fragrance.
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Oct 12, 2019 8:56 PM CST
Zone 9, Sunset Zone 9 (Zone 9b)
Roses
I had Alnwick. Emphasis on had. Took it out this year. Did not bloom enough for me and mine was barely fragrant. I Gave it several years but decided it needed to go and put something better in its place.

I find in my hot, hot, hot Zone 9 (and cold in winter--not Minn. cold but cold for here) that most DA roses just don't perform well. They were bred in England where it is much colder and wetter than conditions here. None of the ones that I have grown do all that well as a cut flower. They may last a day or two and that is it as a cut flower.

If you can give a DA rose afternoon shade, they (for the most part) tend to do better. They also tend to be water hogs. I find mine perform much better with an adequate drip system and lots and lots of mulch to help protect from the heat. They all pretty much go dormant during the summer and perk up again in the fall when it is about 30 degrees cooler. Unfortunately, most of the ones that have done well for me during the summer are no longer available. The best ones for me in full sun are Mary Magdalene and Ambridge Rose. I didn't like the scent of Ambridge at all and after a decade or more, finally got rid of it. MM is incredible. Takes a bit to come into her own but she is a great rose for my climate.

Other DA roses that do well (but get about a half day of sun) are Pretty Jessica, Munstead Wood, and Princess Alexandra of Kent. Actually these three get afternoon sun and do really well. My other DA roses are pretty much dormant during the summer. If they bloom at all, it is one or two blooms and then they are not as full as in the spring. The plants are just trying to survive in the 100+ degree heat.

Other DA roses I have had or have now but are dormant during the summer would be;
Lady Emma Hamilton (died within the first month of having her during the summer)
Mary Webb--no longer available
Sharifa Asma--MM is a better rose for my climate and looks similar to Sharifa
Jubilee Celebration--too young to fully judge yet
Lady of Shalott
Brother Cadfael
Sister Elizabeth--gone, gone, gone
Heritage--my ineptness as a new gardener basically killed this one (unfortunately)
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Oct 12, 2019 9:14 PM CST
Zone 9, Sunset Zone 9 (Zone 9b)
Roses
Forgot to include the following;
I also forgot to add that I had Evelyn (reverted back to own root)--only did fair in the heat
Jude the Obscure--he is gone, gone, gone--thank goodness, not good for my growing conditions
Peach Blossom--unfortunately not available any longer--good rose for the heat.
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Oct 24, 2019 1:19 PM CST
Thread OP
Wales UK
Region: Wales
Hi All Great News.....
Recieved this e-mail 30 minutes ago


Dear Mr ***** *******
We are pleased to inform you that your order MOR371*** has now been despatched. This has
been sent by Royal Mail 2nd Class post and is usually delivered within 2-3 working days.

If you have any further questions, please do contact us on [email protected] or
call 01902 376 300.

David Austin Roses


He's on his way now so......As Promised Hurray!

Tafy said:
You will all be kept updated with pics from the day I receive the bare root how I plant it
where I plant it etc which will be in a very large plastic plant pot.

cheers
Tafy
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Oct 25, 2019 9:08 AM CST
Name: Kris Legault
Southern Oregon (Zone 8a)
I hope that Gabriel Oak arrives in the states soon. My grandson is Gabriel so anxious for this one
The fact that it is gorgeous doesnt hurt either.
You can't plant your new favorite rose if you are still watering your least favorite
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Oct 28, 2019 9:12 AM CST
Thread OP
Wales UK
Region: Wales
THE EAGLE HAS LANDED

Hi Everyone.

Gabriel arrived 3hrs ago via Royal Mail....

Here's some pics of him being Welcomed to his new home as promised.

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I will of course keep you all updated with his progress Hopefully with some Lovely Blooms.
cheers
Tafy
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Nov 5, 2019 12:36 PM CST
Name: Kris Legault
Southern Oregon (Zone 8a)
Tafy, I know we will all be patiently waiting to see pictures and get your personal opinion on this rose
You can't plant your new favorite rose if you are still watering your least favorite
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Apr 6, 2020 10:07 AM CST
Thread OP
Wales UK
Region: Wales
Hi All
Quick update as promised .....Gabriel is starting to make an appearance and Yes he's looking good!

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I will continue to update you all with pics on young Gabe's progress throughout the Summer.
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Tafy Sticking tongue out
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Apr 7, 2020 9:17 AM CST
Name: Seth n Sam .....
W.V. (Zone 6a)
Mustbnuts said:Forgot to include the following;
I also forgot to add that I had Evelyn (reverted back to own root)--only did fair in the heat
Jude the Obscure--he is gone, gone, gone--thank goodness, not good for my growing conditions
Peach Blossom--unfortunately not available any longer--good rose for the heat.


I just ordered Jude I'm in 6a-6bish I hope it does good. I spent way too much on DA's website. I spent 430 bucks. But I am doing kindve like a memorial bed for my wifes dad. I'm putting 20 Austin's in it. Gonna be 30' × 40' bed. I'm ordering a bunch of Old Chinas, several HT, and building one side as an old rustic rough cut lumber fence. To run climbers on. I have so much work ahead of me its unreal.
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Apr 7, 2020 12:54 PM CST
Name: Porkpal
Richmond, TX (Zone 9a)
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That sounds as if it is going to be beautiful!
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Apr 26, 2020 10:24 AM CST
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Wales UK
Region: Wales
Hi All
just a quick update Gabriel is doing well.

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cheers
Tafy
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