Fragrant flowers forum: My dog at the tag....HELP ME FIGURE OUT WHAT THIS IS PLEASE!

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Name: Jacquie (JB) Berger
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JB
Aug 11, 2012 12:31 PM CST
This is the only one of several I have had to re-identify and I just can not find a thing that would tell me what it is. Please, someone, are your eyes good enough to tell me you recognize it. The leaves are not like gardenia leaves...they are thin and a pale green. More a Jasmine leaf but which one????? I am about to give up.Thumb of 2012-08-11/JB/0a5626
The flower was about 1 1/2 inches wide. The petals are separated as you see...???????????
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purpleinopp
Aug 13, 2012 8:31 AM CST
Sure looks like Gardenia. Pic of the leaves?
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Name: Bob Walsh
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Aug 13, 2012 10:08 AM CST
Looks like Jasminum sambac 'Belle of India'.
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Name: Jacquie (JB) Berger
Wrightstown, New Jersey (Zone 6b)

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JB
Aug 13, 2012 5:10 PM CST
I don't think so, Bob, I had a Belle and it died. I don't think I had 2. Here is a shot of the plant. Leaves are beginning to yellow because we had three days of rain and it got too wet on the deck.

Thumb of 2012-08-13/JB/3490e3
Name: Horseshoe Griffin
Efland, NC (Zone 7a)
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Horseshoe
Aug 14, 2012 3:32 PM CST
Hmmm...could it be "Frostproof", JB? Foliage and flower look very similar.

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Name: Jacquie (JB) Berger
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JB
Aug 14, 2012 3:51 PM CST
That is what I thought but the flower petals do not match. This has 8 or 9. I am hoping Logee responds to my question. They sold it to me. So far, nothing. Jerks. Thanks anyhow.
Name: Horseshoe Griffin
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Horseshoe
Aug 14, 2012 4:18 PM CST
Hmmm. well, I know the flower petals on young, or sickly, plants won't often show as they would on a more mature plant.

I'll keep thinking about it as I walk around this evening closing up shop. I love a good mystery so hope we can solve it! (And no, it is definitely not "Mystery"!) :>)

Shoe
Name: Jacquie (JB) Berger
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JB
Aug 15, 2012 7:57 AM CST
Dang Dog.................the plant loves hot sun all day. It loves lots of water. It is more like a jasmine than a gardenia I think. Why don't I just name it Mystery and be done with it. Hilarious!
Name: Jacquie (JB) Berger
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JB
Aug 16, 2012 4:28 PM CST
OK.....I am willing to concede that I am wrong once again. Logee says it is a .............are you ready for this?

Gardenia Fortuniana

I do not think it is, but they should know. Oh God, I would love to be right just one time. I would have sworn I never owned a Fortuniana and I purchased it in 2010. <sigh>
Name: Horseshoe Griffin
Efland, NC (Zone 7a)
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Horseshoe
Aug 16, 2012 8:28 PM CST
Hmmm, those leaves look mighty slender to be a Fortuniana, don't you think? I think they must've only gone by the flower appearance.

Hope you find out what it is.

Shoe
Name: Jacquie (JB) Berger
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JB
Aug 17, 2012 7:16 AM CST
Exactly my point Shoe and I wrote back and told them. No comment on their part at this time. I do not need the name because I am not going to propagate it, but I WANT TO KNOW! Now I am just stubborn enough to keep digging. I will keep you posted. My Rads look super and are growing like crazy.

I don't think I am going to cut any Aimees this year. I think the mother plants need a rest and if God be willing, next year they should be full of blooms and then I can begin cutting again. Cutting just takes most of the blooms off and I enjoy them too much to want to keep cutting. My plants are more important to me than the few dollars I get for them. Have a good day. Lovey dubby

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dogpack
Sep 1, 2012 3:17 PM CST
I'm not certain of the proper place to post this, however I figured fragrance is close enough. I'm interested in plants which flower or do not flower that have lemon or citrus scents as much as possible most of the year. I have a mosquito plant which I think is some kind of gardenia. What other lemony scented plants are around these days?
Name: Jacquie (JB) Berger
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JB
Sep 2, 2012 8:47 AM CST
OH dog, I am not one to answer this but Chantell is the expert in fragrance and I am not sure where she posts on this group. Try one of the other threads on the Fragrant Flowers Forum....she may be on there. If I find her I will send her your way.

You could look for her in the members list and send her a message.
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Name: Horseshoe Griffin
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Horseshoe
Sep 2, 2012 12:59 PM CST
Hmmm...lemon scents?

I'd recommend Lemon Balm (aka "Melissa"), very easy to grow and use. And I always grow Lemon Verbena each years as well; excellent for teas and potpourri.

Lemon beebalm (not to be confused with Lemon balm, different genus) might be interesting to you as well, dogpack.

I grew Lemon Basil one year but wasn't overly impressed with it, too. And each year I grow Lemon Grass, mostly for customers who expect me to offer it each year. I've done nothing with it except cook a few Oriental meals some years but PLUS last year I weaved ("wove"?) some of the leaves into a braided wand...I meant to light it up once dry to see if it gave off a nice lemon scent. Now where is that thing....

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dogpack
Sep 3, 2012 8:44 AM CST
JB & Shoe, many thanks for responding to my question. Are there any house plants that you would recommend, like some kind of geranium or other type? Hurray!
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sherrilosee
Sep 3, 2012 7:44 PM CST
Dogpack, another good lemon scented plant is a shrub called Spicebush (Lindera benzoin) - wonderful lemon scent released when rubbing stems or leaves. It is a woodland understory native in the midwest and makes wonderful berries the birds like - BUT - you must have both a male and female plant for this to happen. Both male and female flower, however. Good luck! Smiling
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Name: Horseshoe Griffin
Efland, NC (Zone 7a)
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Horseshoe
Sep 3, 2012 11:10 PM CST
Spicebush grows here in NC also, very pretty when it flowers and then produces the berries. I wouldn't call it lemon scented though, more like vanilla.

dogpack, I grew some of the scented geraniums before, rose geranium and also lemon geranium but they seemed short-lived for me. Perhaps you might have better luck.

Shoe

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dogpack
Sep 7, 2012 5:42 PM CST
Thank you all for this information.
Name: Jacquie (JB) Berger
Wrightstown, New Jersey (Zone 6b)

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JB
Sep 8, 2012 7:24 AM CST
I am so glad you got some answers dog because I am not at all into too many different fragrances. I must admit, Shoe, I went into the scented geraniums my self on year and ended up giving them away. The did nothing for me and I spent a good bit of money on those darn plants. Seems some things will grow for me and others will not.

The gardenias you gave me Shoe are blooming again and looking great. The have been in the GH all summer and loving that heat and humidity. I am concerned about this winter. I can not keep the humidity high enough in the GH to keep some of the plants happy.

Stay with us Dog, you may find it fun just to listen. I am still trying to find Chantell to ask her opinion about your fragrance. Have a great day.
Name: Chantell
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Sep 8, 2012 8:04 PM CST
JB! Shoe! Good to 'see' everyone. Thanks to JB for hollering in my direction so I poked in over here. God love her but I'm no expert, dog.,,she's just overly gracious with her praise. You'll learn more from JB and Shoe than I could even begin to share! Also remember scent is subjective....what's lemon to one might not be another. Looks like the main 2 were suggested already. Let me share a few more that might or might not have a hint of lemon/citrus to your nose. Winter honeysuckle blooms have a lemon scent to my nose as does Butterfly Ginger to a degree. There re those that believe some of the Daphne blooms lean toward a baby powder/lemon mix fragrance. There is a lemon basil as well as a Thyme if you like the herbs. My NOID Crinum that bloomed last week had a hint of a citrus type scent....although telling you NOID doesn't really help much, now does it (photo below). If I think of any more - I'll pop back in.Thumb of 2012-09-09/Chantell/06cdc4 Opps notices Shoe's thoughts on the Lemon Basil. He's probably right...you gotta give those leaves a good rub to get that scent where as the 2 he mentioned have a more pronounced lemon scent
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