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Aug 19, 2012 11:43 AM CST
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Name: Ken Ramsey
Vero Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
Bromeliad Vegetable Grower Region: United States of America Tropicals Plumerias Orchids
Region: Mississippi Master Gardener: Mississippi Hummingbirder Cat Lover Composter Seller of Garden Stuff
This was one of the three plumeria I brought back from Maui almost three decades ago. It did not bloom the last two years but now has multiple stalks and blooms. I lost the label long, long ago and I need an ID or perhaps possible ID. The leaves are not as large as the 'Celadine' and are darker green with more of a reddish tint, particularly when they first form. The flower stalks are dark crimsom and so are the flowers, with the centers a darker crimsom, more like dark maroon. There is a light fragrance but nothing like the 'Celadine'. I think the white flakes on the petals are pollen from adjacent 'White Butterfly' ginger deposited after heavy rain storms yesterday.Thumb of 2012-08-19/drdawg/3d65e5
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Aug 19, 2012 12:01 PM CST

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I am 95% sure it is Scott Pratt. Are the leaves standing upright, an dis the growth habit of the plant somewhat horizontal?
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Aug 19, 2012 1:05 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Ken Ramsey
Vero Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
Bromeliad Vegetable Grower Region: United States of America Tropicals Plumerias Orchids
Region: Mississippi Master Gardener: Mississippi Hummingbirder Cat Lover Composter Seller of Garden Stuff
Yes, Hetty, the leaves are much more upright than my 'Celadine'. I don't know that all the branches are more horizontal. Some are growing upright and some more horizontal. I was looking at another thread you had with numerous pics, and I thought the Scott Pratt pic was the same as what I have.

Here are a few pics of both the 28 year old plant with 3.5" trunk thickness and a multi-branch cutting rooted two years ago.Thumb of 2012-08-19/drdawg/0887b9
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drdawg (Dr. Kenneth Ramsey)

The reason it's so hard to lose weight when you get up in age is because your body and your fat have become good friends.
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Aug 19, 2012 3:03 PM CST
Name: Michael Hicks
Clermont, Fl
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Dog Lover Plumerias Orchids Tropicals
Amaryllis Region: Florida Region: United States of America Roses
Looks like Scott Pratt to me

thats a great plumeria well sought after for its deep color but seems to be a bit difficult to root but you most likely have good luck with your experience and set up!!

sending tree mail...
mike
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Aug 19, 2012 4:36 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Ken Ramsey
Vero Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
Bromeliad Vegetable Grower Region: United States of America Tropicals Plumerias Orchids
Region: Mississippi Master Gardener: Mississippi Hummingbirder Cat Lover Composter Seller of Garden Stuff
Mike, I now have enough plants/branches of the Scott Pratt to take some nice cuttings when dormancy comes in the fall and will either sell the cuttings or rooted plants when I bring them out of dormancy. I will have several for sale next spring. Any idea what they go for? You are the expert in the "selling" arena.

Ken
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Aug 19, 2012 6:17 PM CST
Name: Michael Hicks
Clermont, Fl
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Dog Lover Plumerias Orchids Tropicals
Amaryllis Region: Florida Region: United States of America Roses
It really depends how long and how many tips for sure I think Hetty would know better of the market value of these would be due to my dealings are a lot of the time in large quantity and selling giving discounts.

i dont want to miss lead i normally price my cutting lower then market value

mike
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Aug 19, 2012 7:32 PM CST
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Name: Ken Ramsey
Vero Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
Bromeliad Vegetable Grower Region: United States of America Tropicals Plumerias Orchids
Region: Mississippi Master Gardener: Mississippi Hummingbirder Cat Lover Composter Seller of Garden Stuff
I am afraid that I do also.
drdawg (Dr. Kenneth Ramsey)

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Aug 19, 2012 8:51 PM CST

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No higher than $ 25 unless it's a multibranched plant. While it is sought after and desirable because of its color, it is not uncommon.
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Aug 19, 2012 8:57 PM CST
Name: Michael Hicks
Clermont, Fl
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Dog Lover Plumerias Orchids Tropicals
Amaryllis Region: Florida Region: United States of America Roses
I know you could give a better answer then i could but i would have been close Hilarious! i was going to say cutting 1 tip 20 plant 30 + 3-5 per tip
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Aug 20, 2012 5:55 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Ken Ramsey
Vero Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
Bromeliad Vegetable Grower Region: United States of America Tropicals Plumerias Orchids
Region: Mississippi Master Gardener: Mississippi Hummingbirder Cat Lover Composter Seller of Garden Stuff
Thanks for the info. I have never sold a cutting for more than $10 or a rooted plant for more than $13, plus shipping @ $9.95-$12.95. Of course, these were all 'Celadine' varieties. I will have several varieties next spring so it will be interesting to see the interest in those. Though 'Celadine' is a common variety, it seems to draw interest nonetheless. I sold out of every cutting/rooting this spring/summer. Ken
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Aug 20, 2012 6:00 AM CST

Plumerias Photo Contest Winner: 2015 Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Ideas: Master Level Forum moderator
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Celadine has a lot going for it. Compact growth, very firm, long lasting flowers, and an excellent scent.
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Aug 20, 2012 7:51 AM CST
Name: Michael Hicks
Clermont, Fl
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Dog Lover Plumerias Orchids Tropicals
Amaryllis Region: Florida Region: United States of America Roses
I am one that saids its a more common one but it should be in everyone collection its that good as Hetty pointed out!!

when you start selling those others get that price up some i dont think very meny cuttings should go for under 15 unless they are center cut or frost bit and go up to 25.00 for ones on the higher end.

just my thoughts

mike
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Aug 20, 2012 8:00 AM CST

Plumerias Photo Contest Winner: 2015 Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Ideas: Master Level Forum moderator
Region: Florida Cat Lover Garden Sages Cactus and Succulents Tropicals Hosted a Not-A-Raffle-Raffle
Ken - is it because of space that you take cuttings in the fall? Cuttings taken in the spring usually root more easily.
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Aug 23, 2012 3:01 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Ken Ramsey
Vero Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
Bromeliad Vegetable Grower Region: United States of America Tropicals Plumerias Orchids
Region: Mississippi Master Gardener: Mississippi Hummingbirder Cat Lover Composter Seller of Garden Stuff
Yes, Hetty, it is space related. Many of my plants are so large that I can neither get them into the contractor bags nor into the closets to overwinter. Don't forget, here in NE Mississippi, all of the plumeria have to come in Oct-Nov. and overwinter inside. I don't take cuttings in the fall from all the plants, just the very large ones. So far I have seen absolutely no difference when rooting the cuttings taken in the fall or the cuttings taken in the spring. Perhaps I have just been lucky. I root everything in the spring, though I am experimenting in rooting numerous cuttings taken about two weeks ago. I will let you know how that experiment comes out.
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