Daylilies forum: Seed Conversion and Long Cross

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Name: James
South Bend, IN (Zone 5b)
Hostas Enjoys or suffers cold winters Birds Seed Starter Annuals Region: Indiana
Region: United States of America Dog Lover Daylilies Container Gardener Plant and/or Seed Trader
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JWWC
Aug 27, 2012 9:17 AM CST
I have a couple of questions. The first should be easy: can someone give me a definition of a long cross? From what I can understand it is just multiples of a single cross. That is to say, rather than just crossing A X B once, it is done multiple times to yield a lot of seeds.

The second question is more detailed. I was wondering if anyone had tried dip - tet conversions on seeds? I have read what I can find on the internet and was just curious if anyone here had experience they would be willing to share?
Name: Cynthia (Cindy)
Melvindale, Mi (Zone 5b)
Hybridizer Irises Butterflies Charter ATP Member Birds Cat Lover
Region: United States of America Region: Michigan Vegetable Grower Daylilies Hummingbirder Heucheras
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Hemlady
Aug 27, 2012 10:39 AM CST
That is what I understand is a long cross. Making several of the same cross to obtain a lot of seeds from that particular cross.
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Name: Betty
Bakersfield, CA
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Birds The WITWIT Badge Region: United States of America Roses
Irises Cat Lover Daylilies Region: California Garden Ideas: Level 1
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Betja
Aug 27, 2012 11:03 AM CST
I believe Fred (Spunky1) has someone who does his conversions for him. Jamie Gossard (Heavenly Gardens) has something on conversions on his website, and there's another one I'll try and look up quickly and get back.

Betty
Name: Betty
Bakersfield, CA
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Birds The WITWIT Badge Region: United States of America Roses
Irises Cat Lover Daylilies Region: California Garden Ideas: Level 1
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Betja
Aug 27, 2012 11:14 AM CST
OK, I found it. It's near the bottom of this older post in Bill Waldrop's blog, "Bill's Daylily Corner."

http://billsdaylilycorner.blogspot.com/search?updated-max=20...

This is a really interesting blog with all sorts of information, so you might want to peruse more of it and I'm sure he'll have other information about conversions in it. That yellow tet conversion of SUNGLASSES NEEDED in his May 23 blog is fantastic!

Hope this helps.

Betty
Name: James
South Bend, IN (Zone 5b)
Hostas Enjoys or suffers cold winters Birds Seed Starter Annuals Region: Indiana
Region: United States of America Dog Lover Daylilies Container Gardener Plant and/or Seed Trader
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JWWC
Aug 27, 2012 12:29 PM CST
Thanks Betty! I had seen some of that info. I was wondering more specifically about the method of actual converting seeds at the time of germination. I was going to try using oryzalin (sulfran) in the spring. I can get my hands on molecular biology grade colchicine but frankly, it doesn't seem worth the trouble from what I have been reading.
Name: Betty
Bakersfield, CA
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Birds The WITWIT Badge Region: United States of America Roses
Irises Cat Lover Daylilies Region: California Garden Ideas: Level 1
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Betja
Aug 27, 2012 12:37 PM CST
I didn't realize you could convert seeds. That's really interesting! I hope you keep us informed on your progress if you try it!

Betty

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