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Name: Gordon
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GordonHawk
Sep 12, 2012 9:28 AM CST
here's a fun projectThumb of 2012-09-12/GordonHawk/b0ea99
Name: Lynn
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valleylynn
Sep 12, 2012 11:25 AM CST

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Very cleaver Gordon. Where did you take this photo?
It looks like the cords go through the bottom end and neck end of the bottles. Is that correct?
Name: Jo Ann Gentle
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ge1836
Sep 14, 2012 2:24 AM CST
Great idea and the look is so contemporary
Name: Gordon
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GordonHawk
Sep 15, 2012 10:35 PM CST
it's the herb garden for a resturant..
the wires do seem to go through the top and bottom.. and the bottles are kept in place with a little wrap on the wire that's too big to go back through the holes in the bottles...
Name: Jo Ann Gentle
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ge1836
Sep 16, 2012 10:05 AM CST
hmmmmmmm I wonder about this method with another application
Name: Lynn
Dallas, OR (Zone 8b)
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valleylynn
Sep 16, 2012 3:13 PM CST

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What are you thinking Jo Ann?
Name: Arif Masud
Alpha Centauri (Zone 9a)
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KAMasud
Sep 30, 2012 8:30 AM CST
Cool idea. How to make use of it in our dessicating atmosphere? Plus a neat way to keep things from cross pollinating, just increase the distance a bit more. Have to think over it.
Regards,
Masud.
Name: Lynn
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valleylynn
Sep 30, 2012 9:05 AM CST

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Hi Masud. How do you grow your container plants?
Name: Gordon
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GordonHawk
Sep 30, 2012 11:13 AM CST
this one is good in earthquake areas.. no matter the tilt after.. the bottles will always be level and preserve the same water travel aspects as before the quake
where are you masud with the atmosphere so compromised... and what is desiccating and where did it come from
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Name: Bev
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webesemps
Oct 4, 2012 4:08 PM CST
Herb Garden and Wall Art... I wouldn't mind being in a restaurant eating and looking at that Wall Garden Drooling
Name: Lynn
Dallas, OR (Zone 8b)
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valleylynn
Oct 4, 2012 5:12 PM CST

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I agree Big Grin
Name: Arif Masud
Alpha Centauri (Zone 9a)
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KAMasud
Oct 4, 2012 7:18 PM CST
Sorry Lynn, i have not been able to understand your question. How do i grow my container plants? Does this question meen containers in general or these bottles. These bottles i was thinking of giving them a two inch slope, a absorbent fabric strip laid from the cap through the mix and out of the bottom hole hanging four inches free. This strip of fabric is to get rid fast of the Container Water Table which normally lies at the bottom 1/3rd of the container. Then plant some succulents in a soil, mulch, sharp sand combination and check if the plastic bottle can withstand our heat. Plastic containers are normally a failure here(root rot), terracotta takes the climate better.
As to the tardy reply (please forgive), new here, thread unwatched (which i will correct), ID'ing plants, database then on top of it all getting lost in reading some thread. It took me ten days to go through the Semp thread Whistling , read a entry or two then lost in daydreams and work. Hard to explain.
Earthquake? No we are not prone to destructive earthquakes. One in a hundred years is not bad. 1935 Quetta earthquake, then 2005 Kashmir earthquake (I was a part of the first med team which could make its way in, 90,000 dead and wont forget the stink). Sorry Gordon, when these earthquakes come, nothing is left standing and these bottles have to be attached to something. I don't think they have any chance of survival.
Regards,
Masud.
Name: Lynn
Dallas, OR (Zone 8b)
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valleylynn
Oct 4, 2012 8:07 PM CST

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Good heavens Masud. I can't even imagine what that must be like. I did grow up in earthquake country as a child, but nothing like what you have experienced.

I was just wondering what type of container gardening you do now.
Name: Arif Masud
Alpha Centauri (Zone 9a)
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KAMasud
Oct 6, 2012 1:17 AM CST
Himalayas are young mountains which grow every year, the Asian plate going under, ours going up. Tremendous forces locked up. Then these mountains are non volcanic and composed of soil with very little rock content.
The Hindu Khush mountains are volcanic, metamorphic in origin and very old. Then there is a third chain coming from Europe and they all meet near Pamirs (Roof of the World). The Vale of Kashmir lies just about where they meet.
So, there is a lot of potential forces locked up in this area (seismic forces) and we do seem to get one now and then but Lynn, Turkey, Iran, Pakistan, Tajikistan, Turkistan and western corner of China should be taken as same area and all the earthquakes in the area counted as one. Pakistan is lucky with one event hundred years or so.
Now lets get back to our subject of containers. I must be having more than two hundred of them (census time) of various sizes. The biggest holds about 100 Kgs of soil and my Bougainvillea (five) are in them which reminds me i have to repot or cut out the fine web of roots that forms on the pots inner surface any time now. Then i have different species of Ficus in one size smaller pots (privacy) i have to cut their root web out also every winter or they stop taking up nutrition from the soil. These fine silver roots do have a function. I use a scythe to trench down along the side of the pot at the same time cutting out the roots without disturbing the root ball.
At this time of the year or during Monsoons when humidity is very high i don't mind disturbing the root ball, washing and pruning the roots then repotting. Disturbing the root ball is not much of an issue with me, i do it in deep shade and let the plants rest there until new growth starts. Its end April, May, June and some portion of July when the furnace starts up in this area, then i just ignore the plants and try to keep them moist and happy. This furnace is the heart of the Monsoons, no furnace no Monsoons.
Look at this Euphorbia growing in a crack in the rock face and see how happy it is?
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Masud.Thumb of 2012-10-06/KAMasud/4a7d32
Name: Lynn
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valleylynn
Oct 6, 2012 5:27 AM CST

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Masud, you do indeed live in a very rugged land. Thank you for sharing with us the way the land is formed.

You are a very dedicated gardener. That is many pots to take care of. I would love to see photo of some of them. Bougainvillea is one of my favorite plants.
That looks like a very large euphorbia, do you know which species it is Masud? The photo also shows how rugged the land is.
Name: Arif Masud
Alpha Centauri (Zone 9a)
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KAMasud
Oct 7, 2012 10:29 AM CST
Thank you Lynn. Species? Amongst other things, i have added one more. Next time i will climb up and get real close to it and take real macro photograph of this Euphorbia. Interesting point you have raised, this is not cactusland but euphorbia and rhipsalis land. Cactus (Opuntia amongst one) were brought here by the British to protect the railway tracks from stray cattle.
Containers. We have potters clay in this area. Clays of all sorts. Red clay bricks are soft. White is harder. Then we have black clay, that's horrible. I mix one part sand to two parts soil for normal plants. For moisture loving plants, i through in a handful of coconut coir and if some plant wants real moisture,then i add in ten to twelve gel beads (12 inch pots).
For succulents, one part sand to one part soil plus to keep it moist, coir and leaf mulch.
Cactus, two parts sand, one part 1/8 inch crushed granite, one part soil. No mulch or manure. They thrive on dew, rain and whatever micronutrients it contains. I give them a sip once a month.
I have kept my mixture such that i don't have to water all that much.
This coir and gel beads, let me tell you my experience (ongoing) with Marigold Incas. Due to record breaking heat and acute water shortage this summer, i mixed in some coir and gel beads into one of my flower beds. End result, the Marigolds want to become bushes laden with buds but no will to open(to much moisture) so now they are being punished, i have stopped all water for last four days. I want the plant to go into survival mode and produce future progeny (seeds) thats the only way i know of to open their buds. They are still acting stubborn, lets see or some one will have to invent a electric shock collar for plants.
Regards,
Masud.
Name: Bev
Salem OR (Zone 8a)
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webesemps
Oct 8, 2012 7:06 PM CST
Masud - Thank you for sharing with us your observations, some history of your land and weather, and recipes of your soil mixes. Your posts filled with descriptions of color and textures and of time gone by, bring to my mind exotic paragraphs of a land and life to be understood, tamed and sometimes "punished". Looking forward to more ...
Name: Arif Masud
Alpha Centauri (Zone 9a)
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KAMasud
Oct 9, 2012 10:06 AM CST
Bev, "understood" i will agree to but why do you want to tame or punish? Nature is unruly and thats the beauty behind nature. I was not serious about a electric shock collar for plants. Any way. my Marigolds are behaving Smiling 20% of the buds have opened out and the leaves were today showing a bit of stress. Another two days of standing in the corner without water will do the trick. Whistling Will take a photograph in the morning.
Regards.
Masud.
Name: Bev
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webesemps
Oct 9, 2012 2:42 PM CST
Masud, I only used your words: "...no will to open(to much moisture) so now they are being punished, I have stopped all water for last four days." And is not your desire to see open buds the impetus to "tame" by contolling water? I will admit that I buy plants hoping that they will acclimate to my conditions and I prune plants to satisfy my sense of vanity. I don't think I am any different from most plant owners...I hope your doing "the trick" to your Marigolds will "tame" them! Good Luck.
Name: Lynn
Dallas, OR (Zone 8b)
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valleylynn
Oct 9, 2012 3:43 PM CST

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Hurray! Wow, I never thought about withholding water to encourage blooms to open. Thank you to both of you. Thumbs up

Can't wait to see the photo Masud.

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