Roses forum: Anyone want to send me some rain?

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Name: Toni
Denver Metro (Zone 5a)
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Skiekitty
Mar 22, 2011 3:11 PM CST
Raindances, UPS/FedEx.. I'll take it all. I can see the smoke on my way into work. I'm on the other side of the city, about 40 miles, but this morning smelled horrible. Sad We've got almost the same exact weather as during the Hayman Fire back in '02. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hayman_fire The big problem is that it snows like hell in the mountains, then the clouds drift over Denver & the east and don't open the rain zipper until it hits Nebraska/Kansas. We're down in our snow by like 75%.. we've had like 18" for the entire winter season and we usually see at least 50". It's getting scarily dry out there.. very scary indeed. :(

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110322/ap_on_re_us/us_colorado_...

GOLDEN, Colo. – Air tankers and ground crews battled a wind-whipped wildfire in the foothills west of Denver on Tuesday, as officials warned that eastern Colorado's worst drought in nearly a decade makes that part of the state vulnerable to more burning.

Two helicopters, two aerial tankers and 200 firefighters were battling a 2-square-mile blaze that has been eating through grass, brush and trees in two rugged canyons outside Golden since Sunday.

"I don't care how many firefighters they have, they can't control a fire that's raging in wind like that," said Keith Lowden, who was watching the flames with binoculars from a bedroom window in his nearby home. "That's the scariest part."

Seventeen homes were evacuated, and authorities said they went door-to-door through the affected area to make sure everyone had left. Residents of hundreds more homes were told to be ready to leave.

The fire, which officials suspect was human-caused, was 20 to 25 percent contained by Tuesday afternoon.

No injuries have been reported and no structures have burned. Jefferson County sheriff's spokesman Mark Techmeyer said the flames moved past two homes overnight but firefighters were able to save both.

The sheriff's department said on its website the fire was "creeping and smoldering" Tuesday but could spread if winds picked up.

Although the Colorado mountains — including ski resorts — have above-average snowpack, the lower foothills and high plains east of the Rockies have had little moisture since August, said Tim Mathewson, a fire meteorologist for the Rocky Mountain Area Coordination Center, which coordinates federal, state and local firefighting.

"It hasn't been just the last couple weeks. This is part of an extended dry period," he said.

Mathewson said eastern Colorado hasn't been this dry since 2002 or 2003.

He said fire danger could remain high until mid-April, when vegetation begins to green up with spring weather.

The U.S. Drought Monitor says most of Colorado east of the Rocky Mountains is in a severe drought. Much of eastern Colorado, along with a broad swath of Kansas, New Mexico, Oklahoma and Texas, were under a National Weather Service red flag warning Tuesday, meaning fire danger is high because humidity is 15 percent or less and winds are at least 25 mph.

Most of the mountains were under a winter storm watch, with 5 to 10 inches of snow expected.

Jefferson County, where the foothills fire was burning, and at least three other Colorado counties have banned open fires. Denver banned fires in its 18 mountain parks scattered across four counties. The Larimer County sheriff warned residents that fire danger was high, but the county hasn't barred fires.

A smaller, 10-acre fire southwest of Golden was contained Monday, allowing the residents of 25 evacuated homes to return. A third fire in the mountains of Jefferson County burned at least one structure before it was contained.

A wind-driven blaze scorched 622 acres west of Boulder on March 11. More than 200 homes were evacuated for a few hours, but none was damaged.
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Name: Steve
Prescott, AZ (Zone 7b)
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Steve812
Mar 23, 2011 11:45 AM CST
I completely understand your concerns. I grew up in a place where they burned the grasslands every year before the rainy season. So one would go outside with a broom and beat back the flames as they encroached to keep the house from burning. The house was made of brick, so one did not need to be terribly effective. The short bermuda grass in the yard was so scrawny that it provided little fuel, so even a young child could fight back the flames over a wide front. What fond memories that evokes!

Here in Prescott, the area is surrounded by national forest. The forestry department does periodic controlled burns. So for several weeks each winter the whole place smells like a great outdoor barbeque. And the smoke pools in the low basin at the center of town.

There have been times when forest fires encroached on neighborhoods, and only a change of wind direction kept them from consuming the alpine neighborhoods on the west edge of town - not far from where I live.

Nature is beautiful. And terrible.

It's so easy to imagine that water will be there when you want it. And it's incredibly inconvenient when it's not. I hope you have enough water to keep you safe an to keep your roses happy.
Name: Toni
Denver Metro (Zone 5a)
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Skiekitty
Mar 23, 2011 12:06 PM CST
Steve - Nature is gorgeous and cruel. However, every single one of these fires has been man created, not "natural" (lightning/etc). Usually by (Zuzu's gonna get mad now) careless smokers flicking a cigarette butt out the window while driving. I've seen it too often and my own father has created a couple of fires that way. When it gets this damned dry, there will be alerts that ask people to call *CSP (Colorado State Police) if they see someone throwing out a cigarette out their car window w/the license plate as it's a ticketable offense, especially if it causes an actual fire.

No wind today, so hopefully the fires will be brought under control soon. http://www.9news.com/news/local/article/189111/222/Calmer-we... It's up to 1125 acres from a little bitty 5 acre fire on Sunday. :(
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Name: Porkpal
Richmond, TX
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porkpal
Mar 23, 2011 12:14 PM CST
Scary! We have drought and wind but no fires near here - yet. They say it may rain Sunday...
Porkpal
Name: Zuzu
Northern California (Zone 9a)
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zuzu
Mar 23, 2011 5:40 PM CST

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Toni, I'm not going to get mad about that. It's against the law in my state, and no sane person in California would have done that long before it was against the law. I think I was in high school the last time I saw anyone flick a lit cigarette out a car window. That was before 1960. I was appalled when I saw people doing that in Florida four years ago. I know they don't have forest fires in Florida, but it's still such a trashy thing to do.
Name: Gloria Levely
Sanford Mi. (Zone 5b)
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glevely
Mar 23, 2011 6:07 PM CST
I agree with ZuZu I hate it when people do that flick cigarettes all over the place !!! Its not allowed in my yard I will tell you to pick it up and put it in an ash try or butt can !!!I hate trash of any kind thrown out of windows or or well I won't get on my soap box hope you stay safe Toni and get rain soon . If I could I'd send you some or all of the 8 inches of snow we got last night ;0)
Gloria
Name: Toni
Denver Metro (Zone 5a)
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Skiekitty
Mar 23, 2011 10:37 PM CST
Gloria - Tell the clouds to meander down my way... I'll take 'em all!

It's supposed to rain/snow this weekend. Yea, right. That's what the lovely meterologists have been saying all winter. Have we gotten anything? No. Oh, where and what do I sacrifice to the rain gods? What I would do for a lovely mush storm right now!!! My eyes are all poofy & red from the smoke (was at a friend's place downtown & the wind caught the smoke from the fires just right)... and it stinks horribly. Crying Crying Crying

Zuzu - last time I saw someone flick a cigarette out a window was... oh.. Tuesday morning on my way into work. Daily thing here. Then the smokers wonder why the anti-smokers here are so adament about "taking away their rights".. well, you're taking away my right to a non-burn field! LOL! Smoke if you want to, but just keep your butts in your car! That's why they come with ashtrays (well, not new cars.. there's not even a spot in my new van FOR an ashtray).
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Name: Toni
Denver Metro (Zone 5a)
Whiskey Tango Foxtrot.
Charter ATP Member Irises Salvias Xeriscape Birds I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
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Skiekitty
Mar 24, 2011 12:13 PM CST
This picture from CBS news shows the Jefferson County building (Taj Majal) w/the fires right behind it. Pretty scary stuff. http://denver.cbslocal.com/2011/03/24/march-2011-one-of-the-...
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Name: Toni
Denver Metro (Zone 5a)
Whiskey Tango Foxtrot.
Charter ATP Member Irises Salvias Xeriscape Birds I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
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Skiekitty
Mar 24, 2011 4:10 PM CST
GOOD LORD, THERE'S ANOTHER FIRE LESS THAN 10 MILES FROM HOME!!

http://www.9news.com/news/article/189350/339/8500-evacuated-...

I'm not a praying person, but this is getting scary!!!
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Name: Gloria Levely
Sanford Mi. (Zone 5b)
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glevely
Mar 24, 2011 5:54 PM CST
be safe !! I'm praying they put the fire out soon
Gloria
Name: Toni
Denver Metro (Zone 5a)
Whiskey Tango Foxtrot.
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Skiekitty
Mar 24, 2011 7:03 PM CST
It's 50% contained as of right now.

http://www.9news.com/news/article/189350/339/Franktown-fire-...

I know why it's been so quickly contained even with the massive amount of wind & the extreme dryness: this area (Pinery / Hilltop) has multi-million dollar homes. If it was a poor neighborhood like mine, eh, who cares. But these houses here are like 6,000SqFt & up, big McMansions. Plus one of the richest highschools in the city (Ponderosa High) was right in the path.

We got a smidgen (ie: enough to make the windows dirty) of snow right as the fire was spreading so horribly.. I'm hoping that helped. But I'm 100% sure that my area of town will be safe.

*cries*
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Name: Toni
Denver Metro (Zone 5a)
Whiskey Tango Foxtrot.
Charter ATP Member Irises Salvias Xeriscape Birds I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
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Skiekitty
Mar 25, 2011 8:30 AM CST
Well, 70% contained, hardly any wind today, hopefully they'll get it 100% contained today.

Local News: http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_17695671

National News: http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20110325/us_nm/us_colorado_wildfi...

So good to get national coverage... Thumbs down Thumbs down Thumbs down

actually, the paper is now saying 95% contained w/just hotspots left. Thanks be.
http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_17699228
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Name: Steve
Prescott, AZ (Zone 7b)
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Steve812
Mar 25, 2011 9:05 AM CST
On the good side: no earthquake, no tsunami, no nuclear fallout. Yet.

Here's wishing you a nice snowstorm, FWIW. I've been in Denver in March when it snowed, and I found snow in Denver to be charming.
Name: Toni
Denver Metro (Zone 5a)
Whiskey Tango Foxtrot.
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Skiekitty
Mar 25, 2011 9:17 AM CST
What I would give for a nice sloppy mush-storm right now.. 2-3' of mush would help SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO much... Crying Crying Crying
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Name: Porkpal
Richmond, TX
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porkpal
Mar 26, 2011 5:58 PM CST
I usually find other people's snow charming.

I'm glad you've escaped another fire.
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Name: melva wheeler
texas
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melva
Apr 16, 2011 9:35 PM CST
So far we have had over 500,000 acres burn from wild fires..none close to me...how about you, porkpal?
We had some good rain last week, but we sure need more!
Think it is time for the naked turtle dance!
Name: Porkpal
Richmond, TX
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porkpal
Apr 16, 2011 10:34 PM CST
No rain or fires here yet, but some smoke blew in from somewhere yesterday. The grass in the pastures is getting crispy. Someone on the radio said, that in Fort Bend County, this is the driest spring since 1958.
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Name: Carey
Austin, TX (Zone 8b)
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careyana
Apr 19, 2011 3:29 PM CST
We had a fire near downtown Austin on Sunday. A homeless man left his red coals from breakfast unattended and those crazy winds took hold...Very scary. One of my college classes is near to where the fire happened. There were C130s dropping fire retardant and everything since it was so close to a very populated area.
Name: Toni
Denver Metro (Zone 5a)
Whiskey Tango Foxtrot.
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Skiekitty
Apr 19, 2011 3:59 PM CST
We got a smidgen of rain last night.. probably about a tenth of an inch. But, you know what? I'll take it. I'll take anything the clouds will give me. This weekend all National Parks are free and we were planning on going up to the Rocky Mountain National Park for a nice drive, but now the weather is stating thunderstorms for the city.. and trust me, you don't want to be in a thunderstorm in the mountains if you can avoid it. So we will probably just stay home and enjoy the wet (if we get any!).

EDIT: It's thundering as we speak! Yay!! First thunderstorm of the year! Only bad thing is that with thunder is always lightning and as dry as it is, afraid of it starting a fire...
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Name: Gloria Levely
Sanford Mi. (Zone 5b)
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Enjoys or suffers cold winters Region: Michigan Lilies Irises
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glevely
Apr 19, 2011 5:22 PM CST
gosh girls I wish I could send this mess we are having to day back out your way rain snow and sleet were having thunder too Group hug
Gloria

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