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Oct 7, 2012 7:10 PM CST
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Name: Linda Williams
Medina Co., TX (Zone 8a)
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About 49° last night....tonight is supposed to be the same here. The high today didn't even get up to 54°. Feels winter-ish! Got some warm clothes out yesterday. Brrr!
I would feel more optimistic about a bright future for man if he spent less time proving that he can outwit Nature and more time tasting her sweetness and respecting her seniority. E. B.White
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Oct 8, 2012 1:50 PM CST
Name: Cheryl
North of Houston TX (Zone 9a)
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It will be in the 80's in the Houston area. My plant starts want the warmer weather back! Should be back into the 80's-90's in the day and 70's at night again by week's end. Fall is coming.
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Oct 8, 2012 3:14 PM CST
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Name: Linda Williams
Medina Co., TX (Zone 8a)
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Oh, Fall started in September. This cold front was a preview of WINTER!
I would feel more optimistic about a bright future for man if he spent less time proving that he can outwit Nature and more time tasting her sweetness and respecting her seniority. E. B.White
Integrity can never be taken. It can only be given, and I wasn't going to give it up to these people. Gary Mowad
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Oct 17, 2012 9:56 AM CST
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Name: Sandi
Austin, Tx (Zone 8b)
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It was chilly with that thick eery fog this morning. It will be 90° this afternoon! Nearly all the vines that were sleeping through the summer have jump started with the cooler temps and are putting on a show. The clematis are still pouting, though.


These aristilochias were a sweet surprise, hiding the rain tank.
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Oct 17, 2012 4:21 PM CST
Name: Anna
North Texas (Zone 8a)
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Wow! My clematis and passionvine are looking fine.I did remember to fertilize about a month ago and the rain and cooler weather help too.
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Oct 17, 2012 4:32 PM CST
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Passionvines are covering everything, but not the clems.
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Oct 18, 2012 10:15 AM CST
Name: Carey
Austin, TX (Zone 8b)
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Sandi, is your pipevine aristolochia gigantea? I'm trying to track down the native variety for the back fence but it seems to be rather hard to find. I picked up a gigantea at ARE a few weeks ago, but due to their invasive nature, it's going to be pot-bound here.
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Oct 18, 2012 10:50 AM CST
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Name: Linda Williams
Medina Co., TX (Zone 8a)
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What native variety were you looking for, Carey? Just curious!
I would feel more optimistic about a bright future for man if he spent less time proving that he can outwit Nature and more time tasting her sweetness and respecting her seniority. E. B.White
Integrity can never be taken. It can only be given, and I wasn't going to give it up to these people. Gary Mowad
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Oct 18, 2012 12:26 PM CST
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I keep mine in a pot also. It is a gigantea, but never gets blooms as big as I hoped for. Think it has something to do with being in a pot for years. As soon as the weather cooled, it really went crazy. It's covering the top of the rain tank and down the sides. I've never tried to propagate it. Maybe I'll try.
I have a friend who has one that has blooms that are huge! Her brother brought the seeds back form Costa Rica.
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Oct 18, 2012 1:32 PM CST
Name: Carey
Austin, TX (Zone 8b)
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Linda, honestly, any of the natives will do, but I'd just need to be a little more careful where I would plant some of them. Specifically I'm looking for Swan Flower (Aristolochia erecta) but any of the others would work too.
Texas Snakeroot (Aristolochia serpentaria)
Texas Pipevine (Aristolochia coryi)
Woolly Pipevine (Aristolochia tomentosa)
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Oct 18, 2012 4:11 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Linda Williams
Medina Co., TX (Zone 8a)
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Natives of Texas near Kerrville has A. serpentaria and A. coryi available sometimes. Never listed, but I ask the nursery guy there whether they have Aristolochias when I get a chance to drive up to that area.
I would feel more optimistic about a bright future for man if he spent less time proving that he can outwit Nature and more time tasting her sweetness and respecting her seniority. E. B.White
Integrity can never be taken. It can only be given, and I wasn't going to give it up to these people. Gary Mowad
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Oct 18, 2012 10:45 PM CST
Name: Carey
Austin, TX (Zone 8b)
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Thanks Linda!!!! That is definitely good news! Not exactly around the corner, but I'd make the exception to drive out there if the prices are right! They haven't been available at the native plant sales this year. Hurray! I tip my hat to you.
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Oct 22, 2012 1:30 PM CST
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Carey, I have this one growing at the back fence. I've had it since 2005 and it has never roamed. 'Probably host plant for some butterfly. Leaves are 2" to 3" across. You may have it, come dig it up.
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Oct 22, 2012 2:56 PM CST
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Name: Linda Williams
Medina Co., TX (Zone 8a)
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That's the White-veined Dutchman's Pipevine...not native, but the Pipevine Swallowtail do use it.
I would feel more optimistic about a bright future for man if he spent less time proving that he can outwit Nature and more time tasting her sweetness and respecting her seniority. E. B.White
Integrity can never be taken. It can only be given, and I wasn't going to give it up to these people. Gary Mowad
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Oct 22, 2012 3:28 PM CST
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Name: Sandi
Austin, Tx (Zone 8b)
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Thanks Linda, one of our Master Gardeners gave it to me. It never grows very much. I assumed it was native based on who gave it to me! Carey might not want it now.

The pipevine swallowtail caterpillars are usually on the Aristilochia gigantea. Someone said it was poison to them. I try moving them to the one in the photo whenever I spot them. Maybe that's why it stays so small.
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Oct 22, 2012 11:05 PM CST
Name: Carey
Austin, TX (Zone 8b)
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Wow Sandi! As usual, your backyard proves to be a plant haven!!! Lovey dubby

Let me see how the gigantea performs first. The reports of invasiveness are from the warmer parts of Florida so it may not be an issue here.
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Oct 23, 2012 7:13 AM CST
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Name: Sandi
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Carey, if you don't have homework Thursday night, Renee Studebaker is our speaker for garden club. She'll talk about edible gardening. Should be good one.
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Oct 23, 2012 8:59 AM CST
Name: Carey
Austin, TX (Zone 8b)
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Oh POO. I would LOVE to hear her! That would be so much better than Calculus. Crying
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Oct 23, 2012 11:12 AM CST
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Name: Sandi
Austin, Tx (Zone 8b)
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Rolling on the floor laughing
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Oct 23, 2012 10:37 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Linda Williams
Medina Co., TX (Zone 8a)
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Calculus...ouch! I took two semesters of Statistics instead of that!
I would feel more optimistic about a bright future for man if he spent less time proving that he can outwit Nature and more time tasting her sweetness and respecting her seniority. E. B.White
Integrity can never be taken. It can only be given, and I wasn't going to give it up to these people. Gary Mowad

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