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Jul 19, 2014 9:57 AM CST
Name: Carole
Clarksville, TN (Zone 6b)
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I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar Garden Ideas: Master Level Cat Lover Birds Region: Tennessee Echinacea
It's this Delicata squash.
I garden for the pollinators.
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Jul 19, 2014 12:43 PM CST
Name: tk
97478 (Zone 8b)

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Seems like there is more than one type delicate squash. I'mtrying to buy seeds for the delicata everyone thinks is so good. So, all who mean this one:
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Or this
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Moo

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Or this
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Please vote. Songofjoy, does yours taste like pumpkin? Where did you get the seeds?
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Jul 19, 2014 2:02 PM CST
Name: Dillard Haley
Augusta Georgia (Zone 8a)
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Cornell Bush Delicata - http://www.territorialseed.com...
Original Delicata - http://www.rareseeds.com/delic...
Sweet Dumplin -http://www.johnnyseeds.com/c-548-delicata-squash-sweet-dumpling.aspx
Carnival- http://www.johnnyseeds.com/c-5...
Honeyboat - http://www.rareseeds.com/honey...
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Jul 19, 2014 3:06 PM CST
Name: Dianne
Sacramento, CA, zone 9b
Bulbs Region: California Cut Flowers Peonies Plant and/or Seed Trader Vegetable Grower
Farmerdill - thanks for the links. That was very informative. What I planted looked like the original delicata.
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Jul 20, 2014 5:21 AM CST
Name: Carole
Clarksville, TN (Zone 6b)
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages Plant Identifier I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! I helped plan and beta test the plant database. Avid Green Pages Reviewer
I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar Garden Ideas: Master Level Cat Lover Birds Region: Tennessee Echinacea
I got my 'Sweet Dumpling' Delicata at the grocery store and saved seeds. The others were sent to me in a swap.
I garden for the pollinators.
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Jul 20, 2014 6:20 AM CST
Name: Arlene
Grantville, GA (Zone 8a)
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I grew #1 and love it!
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Jul 20, 2014 7:46 AM CST
(Zone 6a)
I like Dickinson's Field Pumpkin and Red Kuri Smiling
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Jul 20, 2014 9:22 AM CST
Name: tk
97478 (Zone 8b)

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I don't like pumpkin, so I try to avoid anything that looks pumpkinish
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Jul 20, 2014 11:22 AM CST
Name: tk
97478 (Zone 8b)

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Question, I believe this to be winter squash, but I've never seen a blossom "head" like this on any squash.

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Its from a variety pack of winter squash seed. Anyone recognize what type squash it might be?
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Jul 22, 2014 4:40 PM CST
Name: tk
97478 (Zone 8b)

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I'm saving seeds from my best Mrs. Aquillard winter squash. The darker seeds are plump, and look fertile. The lighter seeds are flat, and look infertile. Is this correct?

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Jul 23, 2014 11:10 AM CST
Name: tk
97478 (Zone 8b)

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These are the blossoms from the winter squash seedhead shown in post #663031 above. Anyone recognize the type of squash yet? I never seen the blossoms grow in clusters like these.

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Jul 23, 2014 1:13 PM CST
Name: Rick Corey
Everett WA 98204 (Zone 8a)
Sunset Zone 5. Koppen Csb. Eco 2f
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>> The darker seeds are plump, and look fertile. The lighter seeds are flat, and look infertile. Is this correct?

I don't know about squash, but I've been wrong often enough that when I clean seeds, I save some of anything that might be a fertile seed. I found "chaff" from alyssum that had 100% germination rates.

I also save some big seeds (expecting them to have more food stored and make more viable seedlings. But I also save some small ones, in case the "big seeds" were actually infected with something and swelled up before dieing and drying.

My rule of thumb is that whatever the plant produced in the greatest quantity, all looking similar, is probably what a normal seed should look like.

Before I throw away the "sterile ones" or the "maybe chaff", I set up some small, stacking glass bowls with part of a coffee filter in each one. I write the description on the filter or a scrap of mini-blind slat in the bowl, and drop a bunch of maybe-seeds into each bowl and leave them until they sprout or rot.

Usually the ones that look like seeds, are seeds. But sometimes, the ones that look wonky sprout better.

If you have enough squash seeds, I would germination-test 10 of each kind.

And if you were planning the throw any of them away, like the small ones, why not test-germinate 30-50? If they germinate well, you can save and trade them, and even include a germination test report: "80% germination on 7/23/2014".
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Jul 23, 2014 1:18 PM CST
Name: tk
97478 (Zone 8b)

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Well, thanks! That was very helpful.
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Jul 23, 2014 1:57 PM CST
Name: Rick Corey
Everett WA 98204 (Zone 8a)
Sunset Zone 5. Koppen Csb. Eco 2f
Frugal Gardener Garden Procrastinator I helped beta test the first seed swap Plant and/or Seed Trader Seed Starter Region: Pacific Northwest
Photo Contest Winner: 2014 Avid Green Pages Reviewer Garden Ideas: Master Level Garden Sages I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! I helped plan and beta test the plant database.
I appreciate that.

It might be better if I knew anything about squash seeds!

Another general rule of thumb is to save at least a few seeds from the commerical packet, and compare what I save to what I bought.

But I like like "try them both", because that way you will find any seed type that germinates better for you, even if "normal" or "average" looks different.
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Aug 8, 2014 10:42 PM CST
Name: tk
97478 (Zone 8b)

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Well, its been two weeks since I started my germination test. Results:
Skinny flat seeds rotted.
Fat seeds are still inactive

Maybe they need a dry period first?
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Aug 11, 2014 6:06 AM CST
Name: Don Shirer
Westbrook, CT (Zone 6a)
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Favorite so far is Carnival, an Acorn squash.
But I'm growing Waltham Butternut this year, and they are looking good. (They look good to the chipmunks, too, and I'm having to cover them up to prevent little munches in the rind.)
I tried Delicata also, but none of the flowers set. I'll have to try hand pollinating next year.
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Aug 12, 2014 6:39 PM CST
Name: Rick Corey
Everett WA 98204 (Zone 8a)
Sunset Zone 5. Koppen Csb. Eco 2f
Frugal Gardener Garden Procrastinator I helped beta test the first seed swap Plant and/or Seed Trader Seed Starter Region: Pacific Northwest
Photo Contest Winner: 2014 Avid Green Pages Reviewer Garden Ideas: Master Level Garden Sages I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! I helped plan and beta test the plant database.
You might soak slow seeds in diluted hydrogen peroxide to encourage sprouting and discourage rot.

1-2 ounces of drugstore hydrogen peroxide in 1 quart of water.
Or 1.5 to 3 teaspoons in one cup.

Since drugstore H2O2 is around 3%, this dilution gives 0.1 to 0.2%.

"Food Service Hydrogen peroxide" is around 20%, so be careful if that's your starting point!
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Aug 12, 2014 6:48 PM CST
Name: tk
97478 (Zone 8b)

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For how long long Rick? Do you think that would help with other seeds that I have a hard time getting to germinate, such as peas, sweet peas, or moonflower?

Thank You!
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Aug 12, 2014 7:02 PM CST
Name: Rick Corey
Everett WA 98204 (Zone 8a)
Sunset Zone 5. Koppen Csb. Eco 2f
Frugal Gardener Garden Procrastinator I helped beta test the first seed swap Plant and/or Seed Trader Seed Starter Region: Pacific Northwest
Photo Contest Winner: 2014 Avid Green Pages Reviewer Garden Ideas: Master Level Garden Sages I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! I helped plan and beta test the plant database.
I wouldn't actually SOAK seeds in a dish of water or peroxide for more than a day or much less than overnight, just because I haven't read about other people soaking them for days.

Someone suggested it to me for old salvia seeds, and it made a big difference.

I was actually thinking to keep the germination medium damp with weak peroxide , as some people suggest chamomile tea or cinnamon. But peroxide actually seems to get some seeds to "pop" faster.

But peroxide ought to supply a little extra oxygen, and discourage some decay organisms, either during an overnight deep soak or while sitting on coffee filters or in sterile seed-starting mix.

I usually killed seeds by drowning them until I started using very fast-draining mix.

I also mitigate my overwatering compulsion by keeping an absorbent pad under my tray of cells, so I can bottom-water without flooding anything. I just keep the pad damp, and that keeps the bottom layer of soil mix damp in every cell.

http://garden.org/ideas/view/R...

P.S. Have you ever tried starting peas in a length of guttering, maybe in a greenhouse or under plastic film? That gets them going earlier, and you can push the pea seedlings out of the guttering into a trench 8-16 inches at a time.
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Aug 12, 2014 9:35 PM CST
Name: tk
97478 (Zone 8b)

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Thanks for the info, rick. I'll try peroxide next time. Never tried the gutters, but it sounds great!

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