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Name: Arif Masud
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KAMasud
Nov 21, 2012 9:25 AM CST
Hello every one, I thought might as well as these are wildflowers.
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Masud.
NOID
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As it was a windy day these would not stop fidgeting.
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Cannabis sativa indica. Hashish.
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To confuse the issue another lower altitude one.
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Clematis vitalba.
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NOID.
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SongofJoy
Nov 21, 2012 9:32 AM CST
I am delighted to see these photos of wildflowers from another country. Very cool ... especially in a natural habitat! I recognize the Mirabilis up there and a few others. I will have to study them further.

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Name: Arif Masud
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KAMasud
Nov 21, 2012 2:24 PM CST
Tee, thats a spineless Mirabilis jalapa? Here:
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Now look at this one.
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This one is genus Salvia species unknown.
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Masud.
Name: josephine
Arlington, Texas (Zone 8a)
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frostweed
Nov 21, 2012 4:57 PM CST

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Very nice, picture #12 in the first post look like a type of ruellia Smiling
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SongofJoy
Nov 21, 2012 5:15 PM CST
I think you may be right, Josephine. Green Grin!
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KAMasud
Nov 21, 2012 8:41 PM CST
It seems Ruellia it is, now species?
Ruellia strepens. http://www.earthhealing.info/dailyoct08.htm
Ruellia brittoniana. http://www.google.com.pk/imgres?q=ruellia&start=250&hl=en&sa...
Ruellia squarrosa. http://www.hoeandshovel.com/2011/03/native-bloomers.html
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frostweed
Nov 21, 2012 10:44 PM CST

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I don't think it is any of the Ruellias you indicated in the links Smiling
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Name: Lori
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growitall
Nov 21, 2012 11:54 PM CST
The seedpods on the last one don't really look like Salvia, do they?
Which of these are native, as opposed to garden escapes, Arif?
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Name: Arif Masud
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KAMasud
Nov 22, 2012 5:06 AM CST
Lori, that's a difficult question you have asked. Aegyptiaca
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these like Acacia nilotica subs. indica can be local. That other Salvia can also be local. Look at the terrain
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no city for miles.
Mirabilis jalapa is the fly in the ointment for which a study of British history and their activity in the area will have to be looked into. There is an Acacia in the ID forum which after a month of checking the only conclusion that could be drawn is that it is a Australian variety. In spring Cosmos and Daisy will be in bloom in the mountains, that again is British activity. I will be posting pics in spring. Bearded Iris is ours Shrug! Opuntia is again British activity, they brought it to protect the railway tracks from stray cattle while Euphorbias are ours.
Difficult question is all that I can say and it requires a lot of work. Most of it in records.
Remember these Alps in Europe meander across North Turkey then connect here with the Himalayas. So plants from Europe can be also found here. Then the North African belt(plants) also ends up here. Look at the regions on Tropicos you may get some idea of the complexity in the question. Then plants with indica in their nomenclature do not spread North. Here we get plants with chineninsis in their name which means the indica belt is left South.
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Arif.
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The above are all growing in the wild but are named cultivars so I can say they are garden escapes.
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SongofJoy
Nov 22, 2012 6:00 AM CST
frostweed said:I don't think it is any of the Ruellias you indicated in the links Smiling


Maybe closer to Ruellia prostrata but the leaves don't look quite right to me for that.
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Name: Arif Masud
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KAMasud
Dec 1, 2012 1:25 PM CST
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Sorbus cashmeriana
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Strobilanthes rankanensis
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Impatiens pallida.
Found them growing in the wild, don't know if they escaped from some garden or not.
Regards,
Masud.

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SongofJoy
Dec 2, 2012 5:25 AM CST
Very nice. Here I. pallida most often grows near plants like poison ivy or poison oak. Is that the same situation in your part of the world?
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Name: Lori
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growitall
Dec 2, 2012 9:21 AM CST
Impatiens pallida is native to North America, and doesn't occur naturally in your area, Masud. Therefore, it had to have been a garden escape (this just means a plant that was brought over to grow in gardens - attractive or edible ones, usually - and has invaded into the wild) or a plant that was otherwise introduced intentionally or unintentionally. I imagine a great number of our North American weeds were introduced in seed grain shipments brought over from Europe mainly.
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SongofJoy
Dec 2, 2012 9:24 AM CST
It's a beautiful and useful "weed". Lovey dubby

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Name: Arif Masud
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KAMasud
Dec 2, 2012 8:58 PM CST

Marco Polo passed through here (silk route), Changeiz Khan passed through here and God knows how many else. If even one seed was carried inadvertently by each Shrug! . Then the British with their Memsahibs were very busy Rolling on the floor laughing Then the Americans at the biggest relay(RT?WT) station WW2 Sticking tongue out . So, I cannot say how they(plants) ended up here.
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Masud.
Name: Lori
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growitall
Dec 2, 2012 10:09 PM CST
Unless they came through North America first, I think Marco and Gengis (Changeiz) are off the hook... Big Grin
Name: Arif Masud
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KAMasud
Dec 3, 2012 2:08 AM CST

Quite possibly the Red Indians were buddies with Old Gengis Khan and most probably related related. Mongolia is close to Kamchatka Peninsula, Barents sea then Canada for a visit. It is a wonder as to how plants travel from one end of the planet to another. Maybe some one else can shed some light.
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Masud.
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SongofJoy
Dec 3, 2012 4:34 AM CST
Ah, a shrinking world even back them. Hard to say, isn't it. But interesting. That's how a lot of wildflowers became wildflowers, I imagine.

When we spot that partiular plant here, we know to look around for poison ivy or some other such "itchy" type plant possibly (and almost always) growing nearby. The leaves of I. pallida are mascerated and boiled, then cooled to form a poultice for the rash and other skin ailments. It's also incorporated into soap for the same purpose. Its cousin, I. capensis, is used in like manner. That's the one growing at the edge of our back woods. Green Grin! And, yes, there is poison ivy back there as well. Glare

Orange Jewelweed (Impatiens capensis)
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Name: Arif Masud
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KAMasud
Dec 3, 2012 8:57 PM CST

We have a lot of poisonous plants but no Rhus Toxicodendron here, a pity though. It is a very useful plants for herbalists. A must for old age aches and pains.
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Masud.
Name: Carole
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SongofJoy
Dec 4, 2012 4:50 AM CST
Interesting. I have not studied the uses for R. toxicodendron but just did a little reading. It has also been used as a dye or mordant ... and has a tallow-like quality that has been used in making candles. I can only imagine that burning the candles made from it would cause some severe reactions and problems since people can get ill just from inhaling the smoke of burning plants.

I'm glad to know it has some useful purposes besides making me itch! Angry
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