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Jan 6, 2013 5:33 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Noel Calvert
Tumaco, Colombia-South America (Zone 13b)
A gringo?Where?(does a doubletake)
I have them already. I'll post later.
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Jan 6, 2013 11:37 PM CST
Name: Jonna
Mérida, Yucatán, México (Zone 13a)
The WITWIT Badge Region: Mexico Garden Procrastinator I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Ponds Tropicals
Enjoys or suffers hot summers Plumerias Plays in the sandbox Dog Lover Cat Lover
Now Jonna, when are you going to open an Old Joints Club in your balmy weather in winters It might be a roaring success


We do have wonderful weather in the winter, I try to talk my friends into visiting and while some do many have bought into the stories of a dangerous Mexico that are common in the US. I can't blame them, I read the US news too and it sounds horrible. It isn't dangerous where I live and Mexico is a very large country but that's hard to explain to those who haven't been here. It's like saying you shouldn't go to Portland Oregon because of the killings in Connecticut.

There is a norte going through here this week with overcast muggy days and even some rain. My neighbors who live in Washington DC most of the time were running the air conditioner the whole week they were here. I don't think it is that humid but it has been more like June than January.

I live in the center of the city and tonight we walked to the central square to hear a concert by one of my favorite singers, Lila Downs. It was a fabulous concert, lots of people and the sound was incredibly good for an outdoor event. We walked home about 6 blocks around 10pm with no worries, it is a very safe place that I live.
A day without sunshine is like, you know, night.
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Jan 7, 2013 12:07 AM CST
Name: Arif Masud
Alpha Centauri (Zone 9a)
I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar Container Gardener Native Plants and Wildflowers Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Enjoys or suffers hot summers Multi-Region Gardener
Media hype and profits. I have been in all the hot spots according to the media but? In Latin America I never stood out of the crowd, every thing same same Hilarious! . If you read about mine I think you will never visit. Rolling on the floor laughing Yes, it is very hard to explain but as far as Americans are concerned, there is some room for concern Whistling lips sealed. So, if it is like June over there then why are you hibernating? The Norte wind blows, that sends chills down my spine. Portuguese and Spanish, never had any difficulty comprehending the first(Goa) and the Filipino's took care to give me a basic grounding in the second.
What a shame if they are afraid of taking advantage of your climate. Lila Downs, can I have a few mp3 files of her please I miss the Latin beat. Got hooked in the water front bars Hurray!
Regards,
Arif.
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Jan 7, 2013 12:13 AM CST
Name: Jonna
Mérida, Yucatán, México (Zone 13a)
The WITWIT Badge Region: Mexico Garden Procrastinator I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Ponds Tropicals
Enjoys or suffers hot summers Plumerias Plays in the sandbox Dog Lover Cat Lover
I have a lot of Lila Downs in iTunes, let me figure out how to send them. She speaks and sings in 3 languages, English (her father is American), Spanish and her mother's native Oaxacan language) and tonight she sang a song in Yucatec Maya which is spoken here. Amazing woman, she was on the soundtrack for the movie Frida so some here may have heard her.
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Jan 7, 2013 11:52 AM CST
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Name: Evan
Pioneer Valley south, MA, USA (Zone 6a)
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KAMasud said:
Now get good photographs of the light green prominent veined plant I pointed out. That gave a look of family Araceae.

Does it resemble this (see pic second to last post)
http://www.aroid.org/aroidl-ar...
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Jan 7, 2013 2:16 PM CST
Name: Arif Masud
Alpha Centauri (Zone 9a)
I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar Container Gardener Native Plants and Wildflowers Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Enjoys or suffers hot summers Multi-Region Gardener
It is in the fourth photgraph of Noel's in the center growing along a trunk. Light green laced with some dark, the mid vein and the side veins are prominent. The prominent side veins give me the impression that this leaf will slit along the side veins when more mature. Now if it does slit then it can either be a Phil or a Monstera. Even though the family is same ARACEAE but now we have a sub family with Monstera, Monsteroideae which goes further to a tribe, Monstereae? Any way non of this in Jonna list so we can forget Monstera. Now what catches my eye on that list compared to Noel's leaf(wonder when he will post the rest) is Philodendron verrucosum. Now see this link
http://fm2.fieldmuseum.org/pla...
The shape is the same and as far as I can make out the mid veins count is about correct. The play between the dark and the light green striations is also correct. Now Noel's leaf is under low light conditions while leaf in the link is growing under more light. As to slitting latter on Shrug! no experience with verrucosum. The leaf which is the topic on the other forum reminds me of Philodendron wittianum. See the shape posted on that forum and the shape of wittianum.
Regards I tip my hat to you.
Arif.
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Jan 7, 2013 2:33 PM CST
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Name: Evan
Pioneer Valley south, MA, USA (Zone 6a)
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NoelCalvert said:Thumb of 2013-01-02/NoelCalvert/07168a

Arif, this is Noel's photo your referring to isn't it?
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Jan 7, 2013 2:36 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Noel Calvert
Tumaco, Colombia-South America (Zone 13b)
A gringo?Where?(does a doubletake)
Hello all,
I will post more images tonight. I have not had time. I have quite a few to post.
Kneel & swear fealty to the Lord Dragon, or you will be knelt! Mazrim Taim
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Jan 7, 2013 2:37 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Noel Calvert
Tumaco, Colombia-South America (Zone 13b)
A gringo?Where?(does a doubletake)
hey Evan. That is the one he is talking about. It is not P. Verr as I have that also, & this is one solid color with 2 shades. P.Verr has 3 different colors.
Kneel & swear fealty to the Lord Dragon, or you will be knelt! Mazrim Taim
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Jan 7, 2013 3:32 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Noel Calvert
Tumaco, Colombia-South America (Zone 13b)
A gringo?Where?(does a doubletake)
Hello guys,
Here is the plant that I was asked about. I think I have an ID for it considering the other plants in the area. I believe it is a juvenile Monstera pinnatipartita Schott since that plant is basically covering everything in the immediate area. The only difference I can see is the light colored leaves, & papery feeling instead of leathery. I think both are results of low light conditions though.
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Arif,
I have done several searches for the other plant in that photo using every variation of Lianas, philodendrons , long leaf, & anything else I can think of. I am still working on it though. Any help is appreciated.

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Evan,
you mentioned you liked seeing me or my wife in the photos for scale to show the actual size. Well I am exactly 6 feet tall, & about 175 pounds. My wife is under 5 feet even, & about 100 pounds. You see me there looking at 1 & 1/2 long leaves further up the tree. This plant is literally engulfing this tree's trunk. I have a photo of something else that is odd though. Check this out.

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Kneel & swear fealty to the Lord Dragon, or you will be knelt! Mazrim Taim
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Jan 7, 2013 10:04 PM CST
Name: Arif Masud
Alpha Centauri (Zone 9a)
I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar Container Gardener Native Plants and Wildflowers Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Enjoys or suffers hot summers Multi-Region Gardener
Yes Evan and through all my mutterings about Monstera and my not being able to find it on the plant list, Noel goes and finds out it is Blinking . Jonna, that list is not complete it seems but any way it will be a great help with Noel's venture. As you happen to be the resident expert linguistically of the area could you look up a few more please. No need to translate.
Noel, the stem, vine or what ever is still giving a Ficusi look to me. Let me check up Ficus and see if it grows there. This Ficus(Fig) is also an Epi, here birds come and eat its fruit and then go poop on top of a tree or building. There are Temples here on the cupola of which a Ficus starts to grow and slowly sends its roots down, slowly it gets covered with roots and the roots fuse/graft together in time and become a crenelated looking trunk. After a hundred years or so it seems some one went and built a temple inside the trunk of a tree? Excellent for Bonsai.
http://fm2.fieldmuseum.org/pla...
There are eight Ficus, family Moraceae reported in Colombia. Shrug! I cannot make out from the following link because only you have the live specimen.
http://fm2.fieldmuseum.org/pla...
Enter the names in Google search and look up living specimens.
You seem to be in ORCHIDACEAE heaven Lovey dubby why are you after Ficus Blinking
http://fm2.fieldmuseum.org/pla...
http://fm2.fieldmuseum.org/pla...
http://fm2.fieldmuseum.org/pla...
Crying .We all want these Orchids Drooling .
Regards,
Arif.
Why cannot the threads of all these airborne plants or Epi's or whatever come under one head so that it is easier?
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Jan 7, 2013 11:26 PM CST
Name: Jonna
Mérida, Yucatán, México (Zone 13a)
The WITWIT Badge Region: Mexico Garden Procrastinator I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Ponds Tropicals
Enjoys or suffers hot summers Plumerias Plays in the sandbox Dog Lover Cat Lover
I did another search on araceae in Colombia and found some articles. Apparently the exciting news recently is about Anthuriums, they have found 4 new species in Colombia. However, you are right that the native orchids are incredible. I recognize some orchids that are also native here but there are many, many more in Colombia. It seems it is one of the most botanically diverse countries in the world.

Here are some links I found. I scanned them, some have parts in English, most are beyond my interest level scientifically but I scanned for drawings or pictures.

http://www.academia.edu/689759... (pictures start on page 57)

http://www.bgbm.org/willdenowi...

http://books.google.com.mx/boo...

http://www.elicriso.it/es/como... (this appears to be an Italian site in Spanish)

I'll look some more if you will give me some keywords (in english is fine), I've used plantas tropicales de Colombia, araceae de Colombia, filodendro de Colombia. Any other options?
A day without sunshine is like, you know, night.
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Jan 7, 2013 11:53 PM CST
Name: Arif Masud
Alpha Centauri (Zone 9a)
I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar Container Gardener Native Plants and Wildflowers Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Enjoys or suffers hot summers Multi-Region Gardener
Thanks Jonna I will do the needful now go to bed. Good night and don't let the bed bugs bite Thumbs up
Regards,
Arif.
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Jan 7, 2013 11:55 PM CST
Name: Arif Masud
Alpha Centauri (Zone 9a)
I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar Container Gardener Native Plants and Wildflowers Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Enjoys or suffers hot summers Multi-Region Gardener
How about Flora de Colombia?

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