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Jan 10, 2013 10:25 AM CST
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Name: Cameron Allen
Plano, TX (Zone 8a)
Amaryllis Hummingbirder Irises Native Plants and Wildflowers Orchids Plumerias
Salvias Enjoys or suffers hot summers Tender Perennials Region: Texas Tropicals Winter Sowing
I have a small container of spider lilies. The spider lilies have been in the same container since Winter of 2010. They've multiplied quite a bit and the container is getting a little crowded. Should I separate them once they go dormant or should I just leave them alone? Will they still bloom if they are crowded in a pot?

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Jan 10, 2013 10:47 AM CST
Name: Carole
Clarksville, TN (Zone 6b)
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages Plant Identifier I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! I helped plan and beta test the plant database. Avid Green Pages Reviewer
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Generally speaking, Lycoris do not like to be disturbed although some may bloom the same year they are transplanted. They may need to be divided every few years to prevent over-crowding. Divide clumps during dormancy. When you divide old plantings (lycoris normally increases by offsets), keep the roots intact and moist. After planting, most new bulbs may go unnoticed for a season or two or just send up leaves. You may not see any foliage or flowers the following season, but they should eventually send up foliage and thereafter bloom in season.
I garden for the pollinators.
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Jan 10, 2013 1:03 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Cameron Allen
Plano, TX (Zone 8a)
Amaryllis Hummingbirder Irises Native Plants and Wildflowers Orchids Plumerias
Salvias Enjoys or suffers hot summers Tender Perennials Region: Texas Tropicals Winter Sowing
Thanks Tee for the information. My friend's mom had me dig up some lycoris bulbs to plant in her daughter's yard, a couple bloomed after being transplanted, but the rest didn't. I may just leave them alone (I tend to be a rough when transplanting things lol)
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Jan 13, 2013 5:52 PM CST
Name: Alessandro
Padova (Zone 7b)
Amaryllis Bulbs Region: Europe Irises
To obtain the flowering of Lycoris, be well planted outside, many species are hardy, Lycoris doesn't like pot
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Jan 13, 2013 7:00 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Cameron Allen
Plano, TX (Zone 8a)
Amaryllis Hummingbirder Irises Native Plants and Wildflowers Orchids Plumerias
Salvias Enjoys or suffers hot summers Tender Perennials Region: Texas Tropicals Winter Sowing
Thanks Alessandro. I guess I will plant them in the ground once they go dormant. I'll just have to sacrifice a season or two of blooms
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Jan 14, 2013 2:47 AM CST
Name: Carole
Clarksville, TN (Zone 6b)
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages Plant Identifier I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! I helped plan and beta test the plant database. Avid Green Pages Reviewer
I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar Garden Ideas: Master Level Cat Lover Birds Region: Tennessee Echinacea
xeronema said:To obtain the flowering of Lycoris, be well planted outside, many species are hardy, Lycoris doesn't like pot


I agree
I garden for the pollinators.
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Jan 14, 2013 5:57 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Cameron Allen
Plano, TX (Zone 8a)
Amaryllis Hummingbirder Irises Native Plants and Wildflowers Orchids Plumerias
Salvias Enjoys or suffers hot summers Tender Perennials Region: Texas Tropicals Winter Sowing
Thank you both for answering my question. Now I have to figure out where I want to plant them Smiling
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Jan 14, 2013 6:04 AM CST
Name: Carole
Clarksville, TN (Zone 6b)
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages Plant Identifier I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! I helped plan and beta test the plant database. Avid Green Pages Reviewer
I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar Garden Ideas: Master Level Cat Lover Birds Region: Tennessee Echinacea
You are very welcome. I hope you have good success with them. nodding
I garden for the pollinators.
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Jan 14, 2013 7:38 AM CST
Name: Alessandro
Padova (Zone 7b)
Amaryllis Bulbs Region: Europe Irises
This fall, I proceeded to transfer some of my Lycoris species in the ground, I think that even if the plant be in vegetation, it is convenient to make the transfer, if the bulbs are good size, maybe you have blooms the first year Smiling
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Jan 14, 2013 7:51 AM CST
Name: Carole
Clarksville, TN (Zone 6b)
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages Plant Identifier I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! I helped plan and beta test the plant database. Avid Green Pages Reviewer
I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar Garden Ideas: Master Level Cat Lover Birds Region: Tennessee Echinacea
A lot of plants are quite adaptable. I think transplanting them while they are not dormant is okay. It is probably a matter of what's best in your climate.
I garden for the pollinators.
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Jan 14, 2013 8:36 AM CST
Name: Alessandro
Padova (Zone 7b)
Amaryllis Bulbs Region: Europe Irises
Right consideration Thumbs up
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Jan 14, 2013 11:11 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Cameron Allen
Plano, TX (Zone 8a)
Amaryllis Hummingbirder Irises Native Plants and Wildflowers Orchids Plumerias
Salvias Enjoys or suffers hot summers Tender Perennials Region: Texas Tropicals Winter Sowing
Thanks again Tee and Alessandro. In my climate the summer temperatures can exceed 100 degrees. I have an area that gets some dappled shade for a couple of hours, the rest of the day its in a mostly shaded area. The soil is terrible too, so would that still be a good place to plant them?. I would also have to section off the area so I can remember where I planted them.
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Jan 14, 2013 2:31 PM CST
Name: Alessandro
Padova (Zone 7b)
Amaryllis Bulbs Region: Europe Irises
TexasPlumeria87 said:Thanks again Tee and Alessandro. In my climate the summer temperatures can exceed 100 degrees. I have an area that gets some dappled shade for a couple of hours, the rest of the day its in a mostly shaded area. The soil is terrible too, so would that still be a good place to plant them?. I would also have to section off the area so I can remember where I planted them.

Your area may not be ideal, but i think the bulbs, you can keep cool better in soil
You can dig a hole and add better soil, plant the bulbs at about 7-8 inches deep, if the chosen place be sunlit morning, only better
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Jan 14, 2013 4:49 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Cameron Allen
Plano, TX (Zone 8a)
Amaryllis Hummingbirder Irises Native Plants and Wildflowers Orchids Plumerias
Salvias Enjoys or suffers hot summers Tender Perennials Region: Texas Tropicals Winter Sowing
I cleared up a section in one of my flowerbeds. I'm going to amend the soil so that I can plant some irises. In Summer, it gets a lot of hot afternoon sun. Do you think I could plant them there? I can't get anything else to grow in this particular area. Sorry for asking more questions.
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Jan 14, 2013 7:31 PM CST
Name: Alessandro
Padova (Zone 7b)
Amaryllis Bulbs Region: Europe Irises
TexasPlumeria87 said:I cleared up a section in one of my flowerbeds. I'm going to amend the soil so that I can plant some irises. In Summer, it gets a lot of hot afternoon sun. Do you think I could plant them there? I can't get anything else to grow in this particular area. Sorry for asking more questions.


I can't answer exactly, rather an answer to those who have experience in your area, too much sun don't is well, this also for Iris, who like to have their roots in a cool place, I had bad results with Iris in pots, for this reason
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Jan 15, 2013 6:11 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Cameron Allen
Plano, TX (Zone 8a)
Amaryllis Hummingbirder Irises Native Plants and Wildflowers Orchids Plumerias
Salvias Enjoys or suffers hot summers Tender Perennials Region: Texas Tropicals Winter Sowing
I'll have to figure out something else to go in that spot. I'm trying to look for heat and drought tolerant flowering bulbs.
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Jan 15, 2013 6:23 AM CST
Name: Carole
Clarksville, TN (Zone 6b)
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages Plant Identifier I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! I helped plan and beta test the plant database. Avid Green Pages Reviewer
I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar Garden Ideas: Master Level Cat Lover Birds Region: Tennessee Echinacea
Do you like Daffodils?
I garden for the pollinators.
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Jan 15, 2013 6:32 AM CST
Name: Carole
Clarksville, TN (Zone 6b)
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages Plant Identifier I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! I helped plan and beta test the plant database. Avid Green Pages Reviewer
I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar Garden Ideas: Master Level Cat Lover Birds Region: Tennessee Echinacea
Also Crinums are great for sunny Southern gardens. Amaryllis, Oxblood Lily (Rhodophiala bifida) should work for you.

Oxblood Lily (Rhodophiala bifida)
I garden for the pollinators.
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Jan 15, 2013 8:42 AM CST
Name: Alessandro
Padova (Zone 7b)
Amaryllis Bulbs Region: Europe Irises
Would be good Nerine
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Jan 15, 2013 11:22 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Cameron Allen
Plano, TX (Zone 8a)
Amaryllis Hummingbirder Irises Native Plants and Wildflowers Orchids Plumerias
Salvias Enjoys or suffers hot summers Tender Perennials Region: Texas Tropicals Winter Sowing
I love daffodils. I had some years ago but i accidentally threw away the bulbs. I didn't know they were heat heat tolerant. I checked for Spring bulbs at Lowes and Home Depot and both managers told me they would have bulbs the first week of February. I'll look for some daffodil bulbs. Both crinums and oxblood lilies are so beautiful, but they are too expensive for me lol. I have some Vittatum hybrid amaryllis, so I may plant those in the flowerbed this year. I'll have to google Nerines. Thank you both for giving me some ideas.

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